Tren e and test e cycle help

[rugby3]

Hi,
I'm 34
178cm
115kg stocky (Endomorph)
I played rugby all my life and when I stopped 4 years ago I piled on the weight as I ate the same amount as I did when I was playing rugby but I wasn't doing the same amount of exercise. 2 years ago I got on the scales as my wife brought some just before a summer holiday, I nearly had a heart attack, 140kgs!. since that day I changed my life being healthier and training 4-6 times a week. I've put on a lot of muscle while loosing some fat and I'm feeling better. I have done 2 courses of steroids before Tren and test, tbol and I'm looking for some help with dosages and if I'm missing anything from my cycle.

I'm planning on running
400mg of Tren e a week for 12 weeks
300mg of Test e a week for 12 weeks
Tamo and Clomid for pct for 4 weeks after course finishes.

This is a cutting cycle to bust me through a plateau.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

 

[dmaug2308]

looks good. U need an ai for e2 control and either pramipexole or caber or dostinex for prolactin from the tren: diet and willing to train hard with no energy will determine your results

 

[EZ_E]

115KG is 253 pounds correct?

And you're 5'8-ish?

@ what BF%

Have you run nolva with tren before?

 

[Oracle07]

I think it looks okay. I'd agree about having prolactin control drugs available, but not protectively taking them. Ai seems unnecessary at those doses but would not hurt having it around either.

 

[rugby3]

115 KGs is about 260 lbs yes, my body fat is about 15-18% might be a little lower, upper body and legs have little to no fat, the last of my stored fat is around my middle, because I lost so much weight I have excess skin now. Diet is on point at the moment I'm going to reduce the calories whilst on course.
Appreciate all your advice and I'll be looking for some AI before I start.

 

[RickRock13]

I'd be willing to bet your body fat is much higher than you think it is. That's the way it is for most. People tend to underestimate bodyfat. Because of that, I don't think you are in the right shape to run steroids, especially Tren. You really need to be no fatter than 12-14% in my opinion. Tren is extremely harsh and will be harder on your health the worse Tue shape you are in

 

[dmaug2308]

Everybody body fat is way fucking higher when they say 15 or more % 99% of the time 5'8 at 260lbs at 15% body fat is a Fucking monster and would not need my advise for shit

 

[rugby3]

I'm from the Pacific Islands we have the densest muscle of all nationalities. I am relatively new to all this steroid culture and that's why I joined here to get advice from people that have taken it more than myself. People do say who is that beast when they see me but the majority of what I have is hard work and genetics. When I see myself I don't feel big (the day you start lifting is the day your never big enough), I'm thinking of what I could be after taking this.

 

[dylangemelli]

do you have a picture to post bro because i highly question the 15-18% body fat at that size...

 

[dmaug2308]

Go get your body fat done by the PT at your gym some charge if u r cool he will do it for free just because people call u a beast doesn't mean u r take your shirt off and if they say holy fuck u look photo shopped that is what u r after

 

[EZ_E]

Bump Rick & Dylan.....don't worry Rugby, we got you. We're going to lay out exactly how you need to play this game.

 

[rugby3]

I thought this forum was for advice, not for little people to try and make themselves feel big. For those of you that have given advice thank you, to those that feel the need to put people down, well you know where you can go.

 

[dylangemelli]

I thought this forum was for advice, not for little people to try and make themselves feel big. For those of you that have given advice thank you, to those that feel the need to put people down, well you know where you can go.

bro, first and foremost... you need to develop thicker skin and look past anyone that may be putting you down... you have ONE person putting you down while everyone else is simply trying to help... i agree, its childish but you need to grow up as well... if you can't take things like that, you not only won't make it in this lifestyle, but none in general...

we WANT to help but you also have to help us to help you... if you get a pic, post it so we can assess your body fat and go from there... your not understanding that if your body fat is elevated, your at an extremely high risk of major side effects with steroid use and we are trying to prevent you from causing damage to yourself...

 

[alcatraz1662]

bro, first and foremost... you need to develop thicker skin and look past anyone that may be putting you down... you have ONE person putting you down while everyone else is simply trying to help... i agree, its childish but you need to grow up as well... if you can't take things like that, you not only won't make it in this lifestyle, but none in general...

we WANT to help but you also have to help us to help you... if you get a pic, post it so we can assess your body fat and go from there... your not understanding that if your body fat is elevated, your at an extremely high risk of major side effects with steroid use and we are trying to prevent you from causing damage to yourself...

perfectly said.

we're not trying to be dicks. we are trying to give you the best advice for you to reach your goals and at the same time not putting you in harm's way.

alot of people just want us to tell them to go ahead and do steroids and that it's this great miracle drug. we are not going to do that because we are not gonna put our names out there because when something bad does happen to you (which it more than likely will at your body fat percentage), you come back and shit on us even more. steroids are not a miracle drug to get fat fucks into 4% BF freaks. it's a drug to get you to the next level when you have plateaued naturally.

be a man, take a selfie of yourself in the mirror, or stfu and let this thread die please.

 

[manumehta]

perfectly said.

we're not trying to be dicks. we are trying to give you the best advice for you to reach your goals and at the same time not putting you in harm's way.

alot of people just want us to tell them to go ahead and do steroids and that it's this great miracle drug. we are not going to do that because we are not gonna put our names out there because when something bad does happen to you (which it more than likely will at your body fat percentage), you come back and shit on us even more. steroids are not a miracle drug to get fat fucks into 4% BF freaks. it's a drug to get you to the next level when you have plateaued naturally.

be a man, take a selfie of yourself in the mirror, or stfu and let this thread die please.

hahahahahahah.......................I died laughing @Dylan and @alcatraz

 

[dmaug2308]

Once u lose all that fat maybe u wont act like a fat bitch OP.

 

[meathead96]

perfectly said.

we're not trying to be dicks. we are trying to give you the best advice for you to reach your goals and at the same time not putting you in harm's way.

alot of people just want us to tell them to go ahead and do steroids and that it's this great miracle drug. we are not going to do that because we are not gonna put our names out there because when something bad does happen to you (which it more than likely will at your body fat percentage), you come back and shit on us even more. steroids are not a miracle drug to get fat fucks into 4% BF freaks. it's a drug to get you to the next level when you have plateaued naturally.

be a man, take a selfie of yourself in the mirror, or stfu and let this thread die please.

haha damn that was harsh bro

 

[alcatraz1662]

haha damn that was harsh bro

Sorry fellas....I feel like I'm back in college recently, idfk why...#nontrenrage

 

[hurricane]

Hi,
I'm 34
178cm
115kg stocky (Endomorph)
I played rugby all my life and when I stopped 4 years ago I piled on the weight as I ate the same amount as I did when I was playing rugby but I wasn't doing the same amount of exercise. 2 years ago I got on the scales as my wife brought some just before a summer holiday, I nearly had a heart attack, 140kgs!. since that day I changed my life being healthier and training 4-6 times a week. I've put on a lot of muscle while loosing some fat and I'm feeling better. I have done 2 courses of steroids before Tren and test, tbol and I'm looking for some help with dosages and if I'm missing anything from my cycle.

I'm planning on running
400mg of Tren e a week for 12 weeks
300mg of Test e a week for 12 weeks
Tamo and Clomid for pct for 4 weeks after course finishes.

This is a cutting cycle to bust me through a plateau.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

you need to get an ai in there .. Liqui-Aromas
and LiquiDostnx from agguys will work well .n2guard should also be included in that cycle

 

[EZ_E]

Once u lose all that fat maybe u wont act like a fat bitch OP.

These are the kind of posts that cause us to lose members....and ultimately lead the poster into a guessing game that in the long run will end up doing a lot of damage.

You can be constructive & help OR don't post @ all.