tren ace instead of deca

[new guy needs help]

hi im sorry for posting alot lateley ,
but now i know what im going to take , all i need is an advice about the hcg , does this look good ? :

i will be doing :

test prop : 70 mg eod 10 weeks
tren ace : 100 mg eod 10 weeks
proviron : 50 mg ed 10 weeks


hcg : when to start it and how much plz ...

i have a test booster named battlefuel from musclepharm , does it help if i take it with the cycle ? to reduce test suppression maybe ? since it help with producing free test or do i save it to the pct and stick with hcg alone ?

PCT : clomid 100/100/50/50/25 , 2 unleashed ,2 bridge ,2 post cycle ,and if i have more cash ill get forged

can adding nolvadex to the pct help ? 10x .

DOES ANNYONE KNOW HOE MUCH TIME THE SUPPLEMENTS FROM NEEDTOBUILDUSCLE NEED TO RACH LEBANESE COSTUMS ? cause i asked and they gave me an e-mail , i e-mailed them and no one answer me

 

[Mecherkany]

Yeah add nolvadex 25 day in the pct 20/20.....

 

[new guy needs help]

okk , ill add it do you know how to run hcg with this cycle ?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

How long are you running the cycle for..? 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks? Unless you are gyno prone, I'd just stick with Clomid in PCT.

Battle Fuel is basically over priced D-AA. If you were to use it, use in PCT.

 

[new guy needs help]

How long are you running the cycle for..? 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks? Unless you are gyno prone, I'd just stick with Clomid in PCT.

Battle Fuel is basically over priced D-AA. If you were to use it, use in PCT.

i got it for free bro , 2 cans . ill use it with the pct

the cycle is 10 weeks bro .

any advice on how to run hcg ?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Yes, first shorten the cycle to 8 weeks.

Second, run the hcg before PCT during weeks 7 and 8. I would go with 250-500iu eod.

 

[new guy needs help]

Yes, first shorten the cycle to 8 weeks.

Second, run the hcg before PCT during weeks 7 and 8. I would go with 250-500iu eod.

okk bro 10x alot .

 

[new guy needs help]

1 last thing , by eod , i mean : mon , wed , fri , sunday ... etc so the dosage will be 400 mg / week then 300 next week , 400 ... etc

cause i saw some people here say eod , then do it like this : ( mon , wed , fri ) (mon , wed , fri) ... etc

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Don't get caught up on the numbers. EOD.. so you will go Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun, Tues, Thurs, Sat.

 

[new guy needs help]

okk man thanks alot

 

[Jbranken]

How did you go from deca to tren ace? Did your goals change? I only ask because these compounds do completely different things. This isn't your first cycle, is it?

 

[EZ_E]

I thought you were putting this on hold?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/starting-cycle-1284263-3.html

 

[new guy needs help]

How did you go from deca to tren ace? Did your goals change? I only ask because these compounds do completely different things. This isn't your first cycle, is it?

no bro this isn't my first ... i started wrong with cycles , cause i didnt do any reasearh , i was depending on a coach , anyway , my
i first did 2 oral cycles , with no pct

then i did : 12 weeks test e 750 mg .

second one : deca 600 , test e 750

my goal is to add lean mass as much as i can while not gaining water or fat ,

i went for deca cz i prefer it on other steroids , and i thought that my diet and cardio will determin if i gain water and fat or no , but the members here told me that deca and test will make me gain water and i am better off with tren , prop , cause it adds lean mass ...

 

[new guy needs help]

I thought you were putting this on hold?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/starting-cycle-1284263-3.html

it is on hold bro , i will do blood after a few months and see if i cycle or no , but i wanted to keep the paragraph short so the others read it , and i said i am starting , cz no one will take it seriously if i say after 3 or 4 months ...

just doing my homework making sure i get better knowledge of what i will do , i already did 2 terrible cycles . dont wanna do it again

you seem like an expierienced guy bro , i wanted to ask you , if i have a test booster supplement , is it better if i use it during the cycle ? to minimize the test suppression , or better with the pct ? ... of course ill be taking hcg with the cycle ...

 

[new guy needs help]

so does everyone agree on this cycle ? and on the pct ...

i want to add lean mass , lot of mass with no water , and no bloating , are these the right compounds and dosage ?

diet is super clean , training is verry hihg intensity

should i add annyhting to the pct , i want to pay more attention on the pct then the cycle , so adding something else will be fine , as far as it don't damage my liver cause its 6 supplements for the pct , + ill be taking bcaas , creatine and some other supplements ...

clomid 100/100/50/50/25 , nolvadex : 20/20/20/20 , 2 Unleashed , 2 bridge , 2 post cycle , 2 cans of battlefuel ( test booster from musclepharm i got it for free and it's exp date is 2015 , so im saving it 4 the pct cz it's useless alone ... ) main ingredient in it daa

 

[EZ_E]

Nolvadex & Tren- can/will cause progesterone-based gyno (if you're are prone)

Which is why most guys will recommend NOT running them together....

 

[new guy needs help]

i will no be taking nolvadex during the cycle if that's what you mean , ill be taking it with pct, but if you mean it's not good to be taken with the pct ill just do clomid , post , bridge , unleashed , and the test booster , should i add annything else , or keep annything in hand while on cycle ?

btw ... 200 mg of deca eod vs 100 of tren ace eod ... it is about half the gains right ? im talking long term gains not that bulky look while on deca , but double the vascularity and fat loss ... am i right ? cz thats what i have in mind .

of course its all bout the diet , but lets say same diet , with theese 2

 

[EZ_E]

i will no be taking nolvadex during the cycle if that's what you mean , ill be taking it with pct, but if you mean it's not good to be taken with the pct ill just do clomid , post , bridge , unleashed , and the test booster , should i add annything else , or keep annything in hand while on cycle ?

so 200 mg of deca eod vs 100 of tren ace eod ... it is about half the gains right ? im talking long term gains not that bulky look while on deca , but double the vascularity and fat loss ... am i right ? cz thats what i have in mind .

of course its all bout the diet , but lets say same diet , with theese 2

You really gotta stop thinking like this, this theme keeps popping up in your threds...

Prami or caber on cycle is commonly recommended while running tren (or deca for that matter) and most guys will have an AI on hand at the very least if not be running it soup to nuts

 

[new guy needs help]

wow , you should be a psychologist bro :| lol , seriously i always have this thought in my head , when i was taking 750/600 deca and test i was thinking , 1000/750 will give me more gains ... anyway im gonna work on this and change my way of thinking .

can i replace the caber ore prami with proviron ? ... cause i can get proviron at a vry low price and i can grt as much as i want , my friend give them to me he have a pharmacy , i'll ask about the caber when i see him .

10x alot man , you keep helping me out bro . really appreciate you sharing your knowledge

 

[EZ_E]

No provi & caber/prami do different things...

And no problem, this is how you do things RIGHT....you started this thread by saying "sorry for posting so much"

There's NO such thing! (unless you keep asking the same question all the time thinking you'll get different answer, which never happens on EF)

Ask away, we all want you to run this cycle and maximize your gains the RIGHT way & when the time is RIGHT

 

[new guy needs help]

okk thanks everyone , now i have all the info about the tren cycle , i might be doing it in a few months ...

im gonna post about an eq cycle , and ill choose wich one to go with , i've been reading alot about eq , and that it give lean gains and lot of vascularity