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Training as a full-time job...

b fold the truth

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Well, here goes. Looks like I will be leaving the country this Winter. Not sure exactly when, but I am in a situation where I can decrease my personal debt by 50% by February.

I have a couple of options.

1) Stay here and continue the job search and hope that it goes well. This would mean that I would probably be somewhere in the US and Nefi may or may not be able to come back and stay with me. Well, if I asked her to please come here...she would.

2) Move to Cyprus. Nefi already has a job making TONS of money, she owes nothing in debt, has 2 cars and a home...all paid for in full. For $3,000 I could move there and live with her. I would have the choice to work or not. I could possibly be an international American consultant for her cousin's firm (part-time hours and VERY good pay) or I could just train myself full-time. Either way...we wouldn't really need the money.

Looks like I'll be moving and I'm trying to decide if I really want to force the job issue. Nefi says not to worry about a job because I am a Pro Athlete and that is what I need to focus on for the next 5-7 years. It sounds good and I really don't think that she would mind...but I'm not sure if I could really handle doing little to nothing except for training myself.

Do you think that you could do nothing but train?

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
2) Move to Cyprus. Nefi already has a job making TONS of money, she owes nothing in debt, has 2 cars and a home...all paid for in full. For $3,000 I could move there and live with her. I would have the choice to work or not. I could possibly be an international American consultant for her cousin's firm (part-time hours and VERY good pay) or I could just train myself full-time. Either way...we wouldn't really need the money.
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To me, this appears to be the only option. And let me just say that there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of guys that would jump on this opportunity in a heartbeat.

I don't think that I could just train full time. However, you are talking to a guy that has a full-time job, a part-time job, goes to school full-time and still trains four nights a week.

I'd go bonkers not doing anything. I'd at least have to work part-time.
...chad...
 
Yes, I could easily do nothing but train, but I have other hobbies and family that gladly take up my time. I can even go to school for free due to my GI/College fund, I think the hardest part of moving would be finding training partners and family, also where I am is the best for my sport imo. The easy thing is you could focus fully on training and be with the woman you love. Figure out which will benefit your sport the most(if you truely want to do that) and the rest will line up.
 
Warpath said:
Living in the mediterranean, no $ worries, free to work part time and train the rest of the day... I wish that when I die and IF I get into heaven i would be that lucky. By the way, what type of pro athlete are you?
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I am a Pro Strongman. I hoped to compete in Boston in Feb 2004 but this might push it back a month or two.

I also will have the opportunity to fly here for 3 trips of 1 month each...and basically compete when I want to.

B True
 
Living in the mediterranean, no $ worries, free to work part time and train the rest of the day... I wish that when I die and IF I get into heaven i would be that lucky. By the way, what type of pro athlete are you?
 
I would do it but I would love to train all the time and work part time. That is why I am hoping after Another four years of school I will be able to do this
 
yea i was thinking the same thing warpath


Clint you would have lots of free time. Time is one of the most valuable things in my opinion. You can do so much with it

where would you train in cyprus?
 
I cant speak for anyone else, but I would consider that opportunity a blessing and would take it. In terms of your strongman career, I think having all day to train, eat and recover would bring your performance to another level.
 
I think her family will not accept you, here or there, and you will end up following her across the earth only to be treated like 2nd class scum, while missing your friends and family, and having only Nefi by your side. If you are ok with that, go for it.


Just my .69. :)
 
I'll have to go against the grain a bit here and say that I don't think I could do it. I have spent my whole life taking care of myself, and I don't think I could be taken care of. (Financially, that is.) Then again, that is JUST ME. I would have to at least work part-time.

B, only YOU know what is the right decision for you. We will support any decision you make. And I am certain that you will make the right decision for YOU.:)



Joker
 
Um Clint are you JOKING?

I would give anything to have that opportunity, and I think that you would be crazy to pass up something like that. JMO

If I was rich and could retire tomorrow I would move somewhere with a great climate and spend all my time training, reading, and spending time with my fiance....that would be my perfect life
 
i'd hate to see ya go...but .....i think if that's gonna make you and nefi happy...then do it and dont think twice. you want to be with her and this would be a great opportunity for the both of you w/or w/o part -time work. and your not going for her family..you'd be going for her and you. and you could still come back for 3mos out of the year(to see fam and friends & compete)......i think its a wonderful opportunity....you dont have a job now so really i dont see a whole lot to lose here..just my .02
 
Clint.. can I ask you a question?

What is holding you back from going to Cyprus, because on the surface it seems like a FAR superior option.

I have the feeling spatts may be on to something... but I don't know.


but either way... good for you big guy :)
 
spatts said:
I think her family will not accept you, here or there, and you will end up following her across the earth only to be treated like 2nd class scum, while missing your friends and family, and having only Nefi by your side. If you are ok with that, go for it.


Just my .69. :)
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Spatts knows your situation more than anyone else on this board. BUT we all care about you, big guy.

While I would jump at any opportunity to be able to just eat, sleep and train (and do my artwork), I would very much STILL sit down and think this through. Especially when it entails to relocate across the globe.

All things sounds easier right now...but really think about what it would be like to be actually living it.

No matter what, I do wish the goshdarn best for you; lord knows you deserve it :)
 
You only have you ask yourself one question B.

What option will ultimately lead to your happiness?

If you know the answer to this, follow your heart man. Best of luck to which you seek. :)
 
b fold the truth said:


Do you think that you could do nothing but train?

B True
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yes, that is my dream one day if i win the lottery or a big law suit. do nothing ( kinda like the dude from office space )
 
What do you think I do?

Hubby brings home the bacon, and I train, eat, and sleep.

Someday I'll fill you in on what a boring existance it would be without family and friends.
 
that is my fucking dream. i kinda do that now, living at home, no bills, very little expeniditures. i would love the oppurtunity to be able to focus on just my training and powerlifting. it would be great. you can just pass the time on elite, or find a prodigy and start training them in your spare time.
 
Bfold, if you want to get a worthwhile opinion about your options, you are going to have to give the whole story. People can't make an educated guess about what they would do in your shoes, because they have no IDEA what the circumstances are surrounding this question.
 
spatts said:
Bfold, if you want to get a worthwhile opinion about your options, you are going to have to give the whole story. People can't make an educated guess about what they would do in your shoes, because they have no IDEA what the circumstances are surrounding this question.
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i agree... there is definitely more than meets the eye here, otherwise i don't think there wouldn't be much of a question.
 
It's always hard to leave your friends and family behind. Of course you'll be with the one you love the most. It's a tough decision.
 
im waiting for at least a heads up on spatts knows before i can tell you one way or another..........

family support is a huge thing, it constantly helps mine and trinity's marriage, but its not the only thing.

X
 
That's a very tough decision. Regardless of where you were at you would be able to further your strongman career. You definately need to take your feelings for Nefi into the equation and also the family and friendships you have here. Take your time with your decision, I wish you the best of luck whichever way you go.
 
Hm, nothing in life is so black and white except maybe taxes and my damn rotater cuff. Try it, if you don't like it come back.

What's the big deal? You could do go and then come back. You could go for half the time and be in the US half the time. Hey, it's your call but don't get caught up in the either/or decision.

Recognize there's lot's of room for compromises all along the way and don't forget to enjoy yourself along the way.

Good luck
 
What would make you happy? Can you truely be happy there? Think long and hard about it. Then make a decision.

Good luck either way!!
 
I'd go to Cyprus. At least then you don't have to hit your head against the wall years later and think ' I've should've gone there when I had the chance'. Life is full of risks. Sometimes you take the wrong ones but it's all part of the game.
 
Well, the whole summer I was sitting on my ass. No job (although I wanted to). My parents took care of me and I can eat ANYTHING I want, which means a perfect diet, along with a perfect large house with a nice pool. All day long I think about training, and there is that special time that I actually train. About twice a week I would see my girlfriend, but that's all I did.

It seems good, but I am really in a horrible situation.

First, I hate depending on my parents.
Second, I think about training to a point where it is an obsession. Constantly, even in my dreams, I think about getting the perfect body and having great strength. I obsess over it to the point when it is counter-productive to my training. It actually hurts me because I believe a healthy lifestyle is very beneficial to training, but lately my mind is too clouded.
I knew more people at college than here. Actually, the only person I talk to these days, outside of my family, is my girlfriend. When I am not around her I start getting very bad anxiety, and this is 5 of the 7days.

I fear that if you go there, you might end up like me since it will be a similar situation in a different place.

You know the answer to your question better than anyone. The answer also greatly depends on the person you are. What kind of a lifestyle do you prefer etc etc ...?

-sk
 
You may have problems finding an adequate training facility in Cyprus...?

No way would I leave the good old USA. Good luck with the decision. I know it's a tough one.
 
Well...I'll try to answer as many of your questions as possible.

If Nefi and I are together and in Cyprus...we may be looked at like a black and white couple being married in the 1970's. I doubt that anyone would do any harm to us...but it is an insult to the Greeks for a Greek person to marry someone from another culture...especially an American. They have been on the wrong side of every war that we have been involved in. Also, since their president in 1974 chose not to allow the US to put a base in their country...we allowed Turkey to attack them and take 1/2 of their island (pretty small to begin with).

Her parents do not like two things.
1) She would not marry a Greek person.
2) She might live in the US forever.

Luckily they hate #2 much worse than they do #1. Her brother flew here to meet me several months ago and told her that she needed to marry someone like me...no matter what country I was from. Her parents now want me to come there for a vacation (they will pay) sometime this Fall for a few weeks. They would like to meet me and see how things go...and to see if I would like to live there.

They know that if I tell her to stay here...that she will not go and see them ever again...yet I tell her that her culture should be a VERY big part of who she is. They respect that and even talk about me to her with the UTMOST respect...always. An older Greek woman here (whom loved me while I worked for her) asked Nefi why on Earth she would ever date someone like IT (me). Her parents refer to me as 'Clint' in a very respectful way.

Her family is trying to find me a job there...a VERY good one. Her father is an Ambassador for Greece and Nefi is a VERY powerful woman in their country to begin with. If things work out...they will find me a BIG job and everyone will respect me for many reasons (especially because I am an athlete).

Athlete's are looked upon as a God in Cyprus. They pay for nothing. Nefi could not believe that I have had to pay for any of my training equipment because they do not charge athletes for anything there...especially if they are a Pro.

We are working on a few things:
1) A way for me to spend at least 3 months out of the year in the US.
2) A way that both of us can possibly spend 6 months there and 6 months here.

I believe that we both understand that we need our own cultures even though we have adapted well to our surroundings.

As far as training...her father owns A LOT of land. For less than $2k I can ship my truck and EVERYTHING that I own over there in 21 days...EVERYTHING. If I choose to...I can train for a living and compete for fun.

Why do I have reservations about going? I have lived in Murray, Kentucky for 26 years. I've lived in the same room of the same house on the same property for 26 years. If I moved to the other side of town I'd be nervous. Getting a passport and moving to the other side of the world makes me even more nervous...I don't know where to start.

The only thing that gives me confidence is that my world stops when I am with this woman and I've never met someone as genuine, special, caring, and loving in my entire life. I've never met someone that after being around them every day for 10 months...I dread a single moment away from them...till now.

I know a few things.
1) I want to marry Nefi.
2) She would stay here and be poor if I asked her to.
3) I can go there and train, drive a Chevy Truck, take my dog, and still be a part of Elite (and have cable modem).
4) We can come back on a regular basis.
5) She will listen to discussions of moving back if I do not like it there.
6) She really does love me and she is an adult. She also takes every feeling that I have into consideration...always.

I hope that this has made a little more sense to everyone.

B True
 
I have a similar perspective on this, with my girlfriend being Taiwanese and having an extremely traditional family.

You have Nefi's love and support. That isn't going to change and is what matters most regardless of what you chose.

I think you've been presented with a fabulous opportunity. Although you'd be leaving your comfort zone, it seems as if Nefi's family is being incredibly welcoming, even if it is only because they love her that much. Her brother's endorsement is very important.

Apart from moving away from the only home and people you've ever known, which is a massive thing in itself, the main hurdle appears to be that you'd be looked upon poorly by the Greeks. That type of mentality is near impossible to change, especially somewhere so insular like Cyprus. However, the fact you're a genuinely good and intelligent man, love Nefi more than anything, and are a professional athlete are all in your favour.

In terms of the quality of life you could live with respect to job possibilities and your strongman career, it appears as if things couldn't have fallen any better for you. Given who important training and competing is, that must tip the scales significantly.

If I were in your shoes, I would have exactly the same reservations. You have probably already put yourself in Nefi's shoes, but if you haven't, do so. Its a mistake I've made a lot when it comes to my girlfriend, and definately helps you make the right decision. It might almost be selfish not to give this a go...
 
I think going there in the fall to visit is a good idea.In my opinion it would be a huge factor,in making the right decision...and personally,I would try not to stress out too much over making a decision,until then.Moving there sounds like it would be an almost perfect situation,but at the same time,maybe not.Dude I dont know...try to keep an open mind,and follow your heart on this one.
 
Reallly what do you have to lose? If her parents are willing to meet you and not expect every American to be like the sterotype that they read about, Go there and represent us (Americans) Like most of us are. I don't know you nor do I know Nefi but I do reconize love when it is infront of me and You seem to really love this Woman. From what I have read about your family, It seems they would be by you 100% no matter what you decide to do. So where would you go wrong? If things don't work out at least you can say you gave it a try. B you know she would be willing to make this sacrifice for you, Now trust in your love for her to do what your heart tells you to do. And you are the only one who really knows that answer..

I wish you the best of luck and Know that The both of you Will Grow old and Strong together No matter what decision The Both of you make. Good Luck BFold.

SB
 
i agree with definitely visiting first. but with the options of being with nefi, having the money and power, being revered as a god, being able to come back to us for 3-6 months, and being with the one you love........... well i say take it.

big steps are risky, and nerve racking, but i belive this to be a win win situation if the visit this fall goes well.

lol........ whats funny is listening to you describe how you feel about nefi, is how i feel about Trinity, thats why i married her. i knew after 10 minutes on our first date i was going to marry her. and i waited a whole 7 weeks to ask for her hand. so i know how you feel, i will pray for our FATHER'S blessing to be upon both of you and your families, and that your conscience's be clear, and your hearts light.

search your feelings my friend, then ask for HIS guidance, you know you can't go wrong that way.

X
 
Clint... take the trip to meet the parents... if things go well... i think youd be a moron not to take the opportunity.
 
Hard choices, I didn't know the Greeks were like that in marriage. Reminds me of Samoan's-they (really)don't like when a women dates out of their culture. I would say visit and plan for the worst and hope for the best. Travel can be a blast once you get used to it. Best of luck to you.
 
visit and find out all the info you can and how it would be. Personally I would consider having money is helpful ina relationship, being poor is really taxing on a couple. Talk toi her about it. I persoanlly think you would do well to move there for a few years and visit and then come back and live like a pro should
 
Dude I was thinking about it...We all know you are the Joey Fatone(nsync dude)look alike..Remember he was in"My big fat Greek wedding" I think you can pull it off....from now on you are Greek! No worries :)
 
OfWolfandMan said:
Dude I was thinking about it...We all know you are the Joey Fatone(nsync dude)look alike..Remember he was in"My big fat Greek wedding" I think you can pull it off....from now on you are Greek! No worries :)
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lol

Greeks, like all Mediteraneans, love their food. The fact you eat enough for an entire family will be one way to all their hearts.
 
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