trainers & Pros...whats the logic behind this routine???

[frankie21]

I've finally convinced my girl to cut back on the all the cardio classes/running and weight train with me.... med-heavy weight, squats, presses etc. & some cardio. well, she was making great progress...droping bf, upping strentgh etc. Because she afraid to get bulky she talks to this trainer who, i must admit is about 40yrs old and ripped, and the trainer has her doing a 6 day leg routine for 3 weeks......light stuff- lunges around the room, side lunges, light presses, hacks with 20-25 reps and upper body mixed in. Now, can someone please explain this logic? won't she go catabolic with little to no rest?
Any women trainers please explain?

I mean, i'm not an expert but besides building muscle endurance, i don't see the point to all that, especially considering the potential increased injury risk.

 

[casualbb]

I have no clue what his reasoning is. This sounds like your run-of-the-mill "toning" program: light stuff, high reps, etc. She'd be better off training with you.

-casual

 

[pillsbury]

why not ask her trainer; see his reasoning behind it...

 

[frankie21]

bye the way, the trainer is a women, so i guess my gf feels more accepting of her input. I gotta have a talk with her.

 

[JollyRogers]

where is spatts when you need her eh?

 

[Thaibox]

It sounds like the typical female trainer from Bally's.

If you want your girl to have an average body and be in 'okay' shape, let her follow this trainer. If you want her to bring her body to its potential and beyond, avoid the "trainer."

 

[spatts]

That doesn't sound like a "trainer." That sounds like someone who gets paid to give her opinion. Here's what worked for me:

Weights alternating heavy one week and moderate the next, for example:

Monday: legs
Tusday: back and rear delt
Wednesday: off
Thursday: Chest and tri's
Friday: shoulders and bis
Saturday: abs

On, for example Thursday, do shoulders light and bis heavy (start with the heavy) and then the next week shoulders heavy and bi's light. Heavy being about 90% of max and light being about 60% of max.

Cardio 5-7 days a week max (start with 3 non-training days) first thing in the morning, empty stomach, OR AFTER WEIGHTS. Moderate intensity, moderate speed, longer duration: walk up hill at 15% grade, 2.5 mph, for 60 min...point being, keep the heart rate between 135-140. I added a second cardio session in the evenings, 20-30 min, and straight protein after that, but only if one session and a clean diet aren't cutting it. At least two of my weekly sessions were HIIT Sprints on an eliptical or track.

My cutting diet looked like this:

http://www.asylum-strength.com/spat-cutting.htm

You would have to alter the times by when you train, and cycle the carbs 3 days low (.5g/kg body weight) and 2 days high (2.0g/kg body weight), or high on training days and low on non training days. The diet in the link represents the 100g CHO median.

1Kg = 2.2046 lbs

 

[frankie21]

thanx spatts for the input!

 

[pwr_machine]

why not ask her trainer; see his reasoning behind it...

Good advice! So frankie21, put the trainer on the spot. It's your girl, you have a right to be concerned.

 

[bigstve12]

i put my sister on the same program that i follow, heavy and hard, and she loves it! she sets PR's every week(more than me) and is strong as shit...but she is not bulky at all, still looks very feminine and has dropped abouot 4%bf also. Most women(not spatts of course) are afraid of becoming too bulky...never understood this

 

[The Red Dragon]

is it possible for women to become bulky without testosterone supplementation?

 

[gettinlarger]

is it possible for women to become bulky without testosterone supplementation?

No.

 

[spatts]

is it possible for women to become bulky without testosterone supplementation?

There are some mesomorphs that swear it's possible, but for the most part, NO. I have naturally high test levels, and you know what I lift, and I've been lifting in some form or another for about 14 years...and I'm still a size 10. By the typical female's logic, I should be ginormous.

Please understand that this is not the fault of the girl that's training. A certain level of dihonesty in society, regarding what it takes to have a certain physique, is to blame. If I told the average woman buying Oxygen magazine that MOST of the women on those covers are at least using Anavar, she A) wouldn't know what I was talking about, and B) would be completely dumbfounded that what she thought was "toned" is actually the well assisted art of putting on muscle and losing fat at the same time (which we all know is HARD to do at low body fat levels...at least without "help"). If they look at a Ms. Olympia physique, they are either disgusted that "those freaks use steroids," not realizing that their "toned" counterparts are using steroids too, OR they are still naive about the steroid part and assume that women can get that big naturally. They also assume that the heavier the weight the more masculine the woman will look. What's funny about that is that most female bodybuilders I know really don't lift all that much. There are a few exceptions.

Long story short, no. Women do not get that big with muscle from lifting. Many women will add muscle without losing fat, and that just makes them look fatter...but too much muscle is rarely the problem.