Top Ten Creationist Arguments Part 1 and 2

[Mr. dB]

lol... that had me giggling becuase of what you consider "fact"

Things that can be observed and proven?

 

[samoth]

Things that can be observed and proven?

*can't observe or prove graviton*

*concludes that gravity does not exist*

 

[cindylou]

Things that can be observed and proven?

that was kinda a joke only java would get I think...

(and it has nothing to do with religion/creation/evolution btw lol)

 

[cindylou]

*can't observe or prove graviton*

*concludes that gravity does not exist*

lol

 

[Mr. dB]

*can't observe or prove graviton*

*concludes that gravity does not exist*

Are you saying that it can't be observed or proven? Or just that it hasn't yet?

 

[samoth]

Are you saying that it can't be observed or proven? Or just that it hasn't yet?

Predicted by the standard model. But since it's a propagator of the weakest of the fundamental forces (along with the photon, W and Z bosons, and gluons), experimental observation is way out of our league. Like, this shit makes the Higgs look like a fucking standing wave.

Theoretically, it's quite interesting. Moarso then even the gluon and other cool virtual particles. (Yes, we can prove virtual particles are real. We can "borrow" energy from the universe to create a particle detectable in our spacetime as long as it's really tiny and only exists for a short period of time. This is how we can "visually" (via non-vis EM radiation) detect black holes, viz. Hawking radiation)

Graviton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fundamental interaction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ledhead]

Here is a poll from 2004....

Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution - CBS News

"Americans do not believe that humans evolved, and the vast majority says that even if they evolved, God guided the process. Just 13 percent say that God was not involved. But most would not substitute the teaching of creationism for the teaching of evolution in public schools.

Support for evolution is more heavily concentrated among those with more education and among those who attend religious services rarely or not at all. "

God created man in his present form:
All Americans: 55%

"60 percent of Americans who call themselves Evangelical Christians, however, favor replacing evolution with creationism in schools altogether, as do 50 percent of those who attend religious services every week."

Young Earth Creationism is the dominant belief among Americans. Therefore, if you self describe yourself as a "regular Christian" then you should be a young Earther, speaking statistically.

Scoff-scoff-scoff-scoff..

The dominant belief in Christianity today is God wants to make your life perfect too. Hence, horrible source and horrible stats. In other words, people believe what they want to hear. I can prove about a time gap, but you don't have ears to hear. Anyway, keep doing what you do, trying to destroy God's credibilty. You have atheists starting to question their beliefs. God uses you more than anyone to spread the gospel. God reversed the whole game on you. Good job...

 

[mrplunkey]

Predicted by the standard model. But since it's a propagator of the weakest of the fundamental forces (along with the photon, W and Z bosons, and gluons), experimental observation is way out of our league. Like, this shit makes the Higgs look like a fucking standing wave.

Theoretically, it's quite interesting. Moarso then even the gluon and other cool virtual particles. (Yes, we can prove virtual particles are real. We can "borrow" energy from the universe to create a particle detectable in our spacetime as long as it's really tiny and only exists for a short period of time. This is how we can "visually" (via non-vis EM radiation) detect black holes, viz. Hawking radiation)

Graviton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fundamental interaction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is interesting, but what does pick3 have to say on the subject???

 

[cindylou]

Scoff-scoff-scoff-scoff..

The dominant belief in Christianity today is God wants to make your life perfect too. Hence, horrible source and horrible stats. In other words, people believe what they want to hear. I can prove about a time gap, but you don't have ears to hear. Anyway, keep doing what you do, trying to destroy God's credibilty. You have atheists starting to question their beliefs. God uses you more than anyone to spread the gospel. God reversed the whole game on you. Good job...

Are you talking about the gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2?

 

[cindylou]

I think you're a regular christian. I go to a church of 6000 that basically teaches the exact same sort of things you've spoken of in this thread. I think they get it right in ways so many get it wrong. Pokey, her ideas aren't weird, they are just not controversial enough to have reached your ears before. There's plenty of us out there who feel the same way.