Top 10 suck ass Presidents in U.S. History

[kx250rider]

I don't know who's worst, and I don't know how I'd even go about figuring that out. But I will say that FDR might be on the worst list, and of course he's a Democrat which makes me not like his policies automatically, but I think I'd have to agree with one thing he may have done (or allowed to be done), which might have turned him into a hero. And that would be IF he had knowledge of the Japanese plan to attack us, and he let it happen the way it did, I think he made a very hard choice, which was the right choice. We were all busy f*ing around in Europe, trying to figure out how to stop Hitler, and we didn't take the Japanese threat to attempt to conquer the world seriously. Sadly, we are now several generations away from that time, and it's going to take another great leaded to allow us to allow Iran (or whomever in the Mideast), to destroy a major American city with a nuclear or chemical weapon, before The People will see the dire need to stop them cold and hard. It took Pearl Harbor for us to see the real danger in the Pacific, and we have to face a danger of Japan plus Hitler to the Nth degree in the Mideast. It's believed by some (and I'm undecided), as to whether 9-11 was Pearl Harbor #2, and was Bush Jr's attempt to make us see the truth. If it was, he failed in the long run. That would mean, FRIGHTENINGLY enough, that 9-11 was nowhere near bad enough to prove a point and rally up all Americans to jump into the Good Fight.

I bent it a little off topic, but I had to say what I would consider important in best vs. worst presidents. Obama is a do-nothing president with all kinds of pie-in-the-sky idealistic college-boy schemes which have failed/are failing/will fail, but we don't see it yet. He'll be on the worst ten list... Not sure which end though.

Charles

 

[wootoom]

Is that Lestat?

 

[wootoom]

They got the first one right Buchanan after that they fuck up

2) Johnson (after Lincoln)

3) Wilson

4) FDR

5) Carter

6) Hoover

7) LBJ

8) Tyler

9) Cleveland

10) Van Buren

Armin Van Buuren?

 

[ledhead]

Armin Van Buuren?

Lol.. Ledhead 2016. I am gonna annex Canada and make Spart my governor. Then I am gonna legalize steroids and put a heavy excise tax on them.. and I shall reside in San Diego with my hot-ass latina...

 

[wootoom]

Lol.. Ledhead 2016. I am gonna annex Canada and make Spart my governor. Then I am gonna legalize steroids and put a heavy excise tax on them.. and I shall reside in San Diego with my hot-ass latina...

Sounds like a fucking full proof plan!

 

[-SD-]

Sounds like a fucking full proof plan!

*foolproof

 

[PICK3]

i got wood!

 

[binö]

1. Ronald Reagan (demented old fuck who was the first to most deeply insert his tongue into the 1% rectum)
2. Ronald Reagan "
3. Ronald Reagan "
4. George W. Bush (stuck his tongue even deeper into the 1% colon)
5. George W. Bush (oh, and let's not forget bloating the military budget with subcontracting to make his buddy Cheyney happy and rich)
6. George W. Bush "
7. George H.W. Bush (useless, lying, elitist who fathered George W. and Jeb and never had an original thought in his life)
8. George H.W. Bush "
9. Richard M. Nixon (thanks for fucking up healthcare you greedy, slimy, lying thief)
10. Lyndon B. Johnson (thanks for Vienam you fucking POS)[/I]

actually it was Ike who got the ball rolling in s/east asia, then passed the baton to JFK who stepped it up as well.

 

[binö]

LBJ was absolutely not a good man nor did he mean well, he was a by-product of FDR. There are three presidents that we know at the history dept. everything about their presidencies because they wrote everything down (Kennedy, LBJ, and Nixon). LBJ's "war on poverty" was the second part of the New Deal. He started "food stamps, public housing (projects), Medicare, and Medicaid and one the worst safety nets in this countries history "welfare in the highest form." Mothers could stay on welfare as long as they wanted. Hell, I am pretty sure able bodied males were allowed to receive welfare in the 60s and 70s.. for an extensive period. He was definitetly a main contributor to making people get hooked on the opium of entitlements, and he was definitely a socialist


As for Nam, he signed the document that started the Vietnam conflict. Kennedy was pulling out advisors, leading indicator we did not belong there. The Domino theory was/is false, going overt in Nam had to do with multinationalism.. Check out: The Fog of War - it is a documentary about Robert McNamara. He was Kennedy and LBJ's Secretary of Defense, he tells all, and there are actual recorded phone conversations between him and LBJ, the one recording McNamara is trying to tell LBJ it is not worth it to go overt in Nam, and LBJ is pressing him to come up with an excuse to go overt in Nam - LBJ was a war monger...

LBJ, doomed himself because like FDR he was worried about establishing a legacy, in other words, he was a quintessential politician. Of course, at the expense of other people, like every other dictator in history...

i read LBJ's bio, and i liked the man as a person, not necessairly his poltics.
and the fog of war nowithstanding, at the time of the mans death no decision had been made as to pullout or not.
interesting quote about the matter via a jfk historian

Kennedy's statements about withdrawing from Vietnam were
"less of a definite decision than a working assumption, based on a hope for stability rather than an expectation of chaos"

so it is clearly up to debate as to what would've happened had he not been murdered

 

[binö]

and by the way the wmd's were not a "conspiracy theory" - bush said they had them....but he was full of shit.

please take the time to watch this short video.
it's from 1998, before dr. evil was president.





so did bush somehow manipulate al gore in 1998 as to saddam's wmds?

another video from gore, this one from 1992, claiming bush sr didn't do enough to "curb the ambitions of a despot/terroist"