Too tall or Too short???

[JKurz1]

Guys - would you agree that there is a "perfect" size meaning height that judges look for.....I mean sure you have a few guys squeez by who are under 5'6 and a few over 6'1, but for the most part, the ideal size is around 5'8-5'11...why is that? I always got dung for being too tall to advance...I did well in locals, but to get farther I'd need about 50lbs...

 

[halfcenturian]

I'm 5'10" and can barely fit in a coach seat on an airplane.

Arnold is 6'2".

Lee Haney is 5"11".

Ronnie Coleman 5'11".

Does that tell you anything?

 

[GUARDIAN]

Guys - would you agree that there is a "perfect" size meaning height that judges look for.....I mean sure you have a few guys squeez by who are under 5'6 and a few over 6'1, but for the most part, the ideal size is around 5'8-5'11...why is that? I always got dung for being too tall to advance...I did well in locals, but to get farther I'd need about 50lbs...

In general their frames are easier to fill out than ours (I am 6'2"). We have longer limbs and torso. So at 225lbs they look super thick compared to us at that weight.

Have the judges told you that you need more size?

 

[halfcenturian]

In general their frames are easier to fill out than ours (I am 6'2"). We have longer limbs and torso. So at 225lbs they look super thick compared to us at that weight.

Have the judges told you that you need more size?

Damn, boy: 6'2", 225, 5% BF, baby back ribs for abs, you been workin' it.
MS in Mathmatics from Purdue. You got the whole package, Negro!

 

[bigjd69]

I def. agree with what 8and20 said. I saw Ronnie at last years Arnold Classic and Expo and he didn't look like he is 5'11". I am 5'7" he was maybe 2in taller than me.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Damn, boy: 6'2", 225, 5% BF, baby back ribs for abs, you been workin' it.
MS in Mathmatics from Purdue. You got the whole package, Negro!

25 more lbs and i might be ready 4 the stage. then i will for sure need 1st class cuz coach wont cut it...lol

 

[JKurz1]

25 more lbs and i might be ready 4 the stage. then i will for sure need 1st class cuz coach wont cut it...lol

I havent competed in years but am making a comback,,,my goal is to get to 250 and cut from there to hopefully a shredded 225......yes, the judges gave me a hard time, well, said it was my ONLY downfall as my genetics, symmetry, muscle bellies were all on top

 

[JKurz1]

But I am afraid my buddy who is 5'4 is gonna get killed.....

 

[JKurz1]

Right now I am about 190 and 6'2....just got a new trainer and new diet...I'm on 500mg of test and eq.....here's what he has me on...thoughts?

Myoplex delux since I have 3 boxes to use as postworkout and a banana for extra carbs......since the last meal of the day will be reallyu close to training and to bed, 1 cup of carbs still to replenish....when I run out of myo, he wants me on a protein blend and waxy maize as my carb...I like it....


MEAL 1 PROTEIN CARBS FATS CALORIES

OATMEAL 1 CUP 13.00 52.00 5.50 300.00
EGGS 2 WHOLE 12.60 0.80 10.00 147.00
EGGS 3 WHITES 11.00 0.70 0.20 51.00
GRAPFRUIT 1 WHOLE 2.00 32.00 - 120.00
38.60 85.50 - 15.70 - 618.00


MEAL 2

WHOLE WHEAT BREAD 2 PIECES 8.00 30.00 1.00 130.00
TURKEY,CHICKEN,OSTICH 6OZ 53.00 - 6.10 280.00
ASPARAGHUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
FRUIT (1/2 APPLE,1/2 GRAPFRUIT) 2.00 32.00 - 120.00
64.50 64.70 - 7.20 - 545.00


MEAL 3

SALMON/TUNA 6OZ 44.00 - 8.00 250.00
BROWN RICE 2 CUPS 10.00 90.00 3.50 430.00
ASPARAGUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
55.50 92.70 - 11.60 - 695.00
TRAIN

POSTWORKOUT
MYOPLEX 52.00 30.00 4.50 340.00
BANANA 1.5 31 0.5 125


MEAL 5

OSTRICH/CHICKEN/FISH 6OZ 53.00 - 6.10 280.00
PASTA/YAM 1 CUP 2.60 47.50 0.30 201.00
ASPARAGUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
57.10 - 50.20 - 6.50 - 496.00
MEAL 6

PROTEIN (WHEY) 40GRAMS 48.00 4.00 4.00 240.00
PROTEIN COOKIE 20.00 70.00 9.00 450.00
68.00 74.00 - 13.00 - 690.00

73.10 - 144.90 - 8.10
337.20 - 428.10 - 59.00 - 3,509.00

 

[GUARDIAN]

Right now I am about 190 and 6'2....just got a new trainer and new diet...I'm on 500mg of test and eq.....here's what he has me on...thoughts?

Myoplex delux since I have 3 boxes to use as postworkout and a banana for extra carbs......since the last meal of the day will be reallyu close to training and to bed, 1 cup of carbs still to replenish....when I run out of myo, he wants me on a protein blend and waxy maize as my carb...I like it....


MEAL 1 PROTEIN CARBS FATS CALORIES

OATMEAL 1 CUP 13.00 52.00 5.50 300.00
EGGS 2 WHOLE 12.60 0.80 10.00 147.00
EGGS 3 WHITES 11.00 0.70 0.20 51.00
GRAPFRUIT 1 WHOLE 2.00 32.00 - 120.00
38.60 85.50 - 15.70 - 618.00


MEAL 2

WHOLE WHEAT BREAD 2 PIECES 8.00 30.00 1.00 130.00
TURKEY,CHICKEN,OSTICH 6OZ 53.00 - 6.10 280.00
ASPARAGHUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
FRUIT (1/2 APPLE,1/2 GRAPFRUIT) 2.00 32.00 - 120.00
64.50 64.70 - 7.20 - 545.00


MEAL 3

SALMON/TUNA 6OZ 44.00 - 8.00 250.00
BROWN RICE 2 CUPS 10.00 90.00 3.50 430.00
ASPARAGUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
55.50 92.70 - 11.60 - 695.00
TRAIN

POSTWORKOUT
MYOPLEX 52.00 30.00 4.50 340.00
BANANA 1.5 31 0.5 125


MEAL 5

OSTRICH/CHICKEN/FISH 6OZ 53.00 - 6.10 280.00
PASTA/YAM 1 CUP 2.60 47.50 0.30 201.00
ASPARAGUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
57.10 - 50.20 - 6.50 - 496.00
MEAL 6

PROTEIN (WHEY) 40GRAMS 48.00 4.00 4.00 240.00
PROTEIN COOKIE 20.00 70.00 9.00 450.00
68.00 74.00 - 13.00 - 690.00

73.10 - 144.90 - 8.10
337.20 - 428.10 - 59.00 - 3,509.00

I love how you got that shit broken out by grams. I wish everyone would be so precise. Most would be shocked how short they fall of what they think they are getting. I would like to see a tad more protein for meal 1 but that is minor. Looks good overall. I would personally blow up like the marshmellow man on that many carbs....lol

What sort of diet adjustments do you have in mind if start gaining too quick or not quick enough?

 

[motorol@]

Damn, boy: 6'2", 225, 5% BF, baby back ribs for abs, you been workin' it.
MS in Mathmatics from Purdue. You got the whole package, Negro!

alright! Purdue grad here too....... don't have those other stats though

 

[mr.nitro]

id say anything under 5'8 is too short and anything over 6'2" is too tall. Im happy at 6'

 

[JKurz1]

I love how you got that shit broken out by grams. I wish everyone would be so precise. Most would be shocked how short they fall of what they think they are getting. I would like to see a tad more protein for meal 1 but that is minor. Looks good overall. I would personally blow up like the marshmellow man on that many carbs....lol

What sort of diet adjustments do you have in mind if start gaining too quick or not quick enough?

Monitor by the use of bf calipers and the mirror, not the scale......I'm on gear, remember that and I agree more protein in meal 1......carbs really isnt too much, the bulk are in the am and post workout......I've heard a lot of critism saying I need more.....but anyways, we'll adjust 250cals up or down.....

 

[JKurz1]

id say anything under 5'8 is too short and anything over 6'2" is too tall. Im happy at 6'

So given that...I am right on the baseline......only problem now is I need 60lbs, but since the contest I am in in 15 months away, I'll take half that for my first contest back.

 

[Faizakafez]

your buddy is 5'4 he will do pretty will actually..

as stated the shorter you are the more massive you look, at a lower weight. There was a guy in my class 5'3 he looked like light heavy with the size he had at such a small weight..

How do you find the ostrish? must be lean and expensive..

 

[GUARDIAN]

So given that...I am right on the baseline......only problem now is I need 60lbs, but since the contest I am in in 15 months away, I'll take half that for my first contest back.

Good luck!

 

[Faizakafez]

Right now I am about 190 and 6'2....just got a new trainer and new diet...I'm on 500mg of test and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - .....here's what he has me on...thoughts?

Myoplex delux since I have 3 boxes to use as postworkout and a banana for extra carbs......since the last meal of the day will be reallyu close to training and to bed, 1 cup of carbs still to replenish....when I run out of myo, he wants me on a protein blend and waxy maize as my carb...I like it....


MEAL 1 PROTEIN CARBS FATS CALORIES

OATMEAL 1 CUP 13.00 52.00 5.50 300.00
EGGS 2 WHOLE 12.60 0.80 10.00 147.00
EGGS 3 WHITES 11.00 0.70 0.20 51.00
GRAPFRUIT 1 WHOLE 2.00 32.00 - 120.00
38.60 85.50 - 15.70 - 618.00


MEAL 2

WHOLE WHEAT BREAD 2 PIECES 8.00 30.00 1.00 130.00
TURKEY,CHICKEN,OSTICH 6OZ 53.00 - 6.10 280.00
ASPARAGHUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
FRUIT (1/2 APPLE,1/2 GRAPFRUIT) 2.00 32.00 - 120.00
64.50 64.70 - 7.20 - 545.00


MEAL 3

SALMON/TUNA 6OZ 44.00 - 8.00 250.00
BROWN RICE 2 CUPS 10.00 90.00 3.50 430.00
ASPARAGUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
55.50 92.70 - 11.60 - 695.00
TRAIN

POSTWORKOUT
MYOPLEX 52.00 30.00 4.50 340.00
BANANA 1.5 31 0.5 125


MEAL 5

OSTRICH/CHICKEN/FISH 6OZ 53.00 - 6.10 280.00
PASTA/YAM 1 CUP 2.60 47.50 0.30 201.00
ASPARAGUS 20 spears 1.50 2.70 0.10 15.00
57.10 - 50.20 - 6.50 - 496.00
MEAL 6

PROTEIN (WHEY) 40GRAMS 48.00 4.00 4.00 240.00
PROTEIN COOKIE 20.00 70.00 9.00 450.00
68.00 74.00 - 13.00 - 690.00

73.10 - 144.90 - 8.10
337.20 - 428.10 - 59.00 - 3,509.00

I would add some read meat in possibly meal 5.. to up the fat intake, because you have alot of sources of LEAN LEAN meat ( tuna/chicken ostrich) minus the salmon of course

 

[rudy76]

If I had 1 inch less back and 1 inch less calf I would look like one big compact mf'er but the way I stand now at 6'2" - I look skinny from the knee down

 

[702daswoll1]

Lets see some pics guys.. All this "stat talk" is getting old.

 

[JKurz1]

your buddy is 5'4 he will do pretty will actually..

as stated the shorter you are the more massive you look, at a lower weight. There was a guy in my class 5'3 he looked like light heavy with the size he had at such a small weight..

How do you find the ostrish? must be lean and expensive..

Let's see...today I bought some ostrich patties....4.99 for 2 patties....they weight about 6-8oz after cooked.....so $5 a meal? Def. Cheaper ways to go but it's excellent source of red meat and lean....96% beef would prob be adequate, but not cheap either...

 

[GUARDIAN]

alright! Purdue grad here too....... don't have those other stats though

whatcha doing in AZ then? LOL

 

[chazk]

I'm 5'10" and can barely fit in a coach seat on an airplane.

Arnold is 6'2".

Lee Haney is 5"11".

Ronnie Coleman 5'11".

Does that tell you anything?

scott 5'8

olivia 5'10

arnold 6'2

zane 5'9

fanco 5'5

dickerson 5'7

samir 5'8

haney 5'11

yates 5'10

coleman 5'11

jay 5'9

if you take the average of them all it comes out to be like 5'9
(being fancos 5'5 off sets arnolds 6'2)

what I find interesting is 6 guys 5ft 9 or under held mr o titles
while so far only 5 guys 5'10 or over held titles

so really it balances out , a trend in taller guys was over come by jay cutler being only 5'9

so i would say someone 5'8 could be the next mr o as eazy as someone 5'11 could be

 

[Cal_21]

If I had 1 inch less back and 1 inch less calf I would look like one big compact mf'er but the way I stand now at 6'2" - I look skinny from the knee down

I'm 5'11, let's trade heights plz.

 

[dopename]

Yeah, I'm 6'4"!! Really sucks when it comes to telling someone what you bench, squat, etc.. With these long ass arms and legs, my numbers are way low compared to most people. But a size 15 foot does help out in the squat rack I guess.

I'm just happy my height didn't come in an ecto body type. I can get fat in a hurry if I don't watch my carbs.

 

[Faizakafez]

cool, i haven't seen them around here or not in the avalibility id like.. Bison is good change too you should try that. Fairly lean too!


how are u liking the test and eq?

 

[sopac]

I've heard from a lot of people that arnold is barely 6ft. No way hes 6'2......

 

[DJ_UFO]

Let's see...today I bought some ostrich patties....4.99 for 2 patties....they weight about 6-8oz after cooked.....so $5 a meal? Def. Cheaper ways to go but it's excellent source of red meat and lean....96% beef would prob be adequate, but not cheap either...

lol I was going to comment on that. Where the fuck you find ostrich meat? I've never tried it. I thought the weirdest foods were just in the south...lol

I'd be happy with an ostrich egg every breakfast.

 

[JKurz1]

faiz - Eq really hasnt kicked in...only 3-4 weeks in I'll let you know....where do you guys live? I'll find it i your area....

 

[JKurz1]

Faiz - so you competed?? I just got out of the insanse alsyalym...nah, but you know my problems I had...they are over for now thank god...heaviest I've been in many manyh years....no more of that food aneroxic shit......glad we could become bros...how did you do? What tip can you give me? WIll do you do one in Ohio next Spring??

Check out this doucher

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7007551

 

[JKurz1]

diet on point??? That was my first fear......but I got time...I also need to get my training down...I've been going 7 days a week...no cardio and arms twice, so I count it as an off day, but I do need to redo my schedule drop the 30 set sessions and ibnclude legs........sucks....

 

[JKurz1]

here you guys go..thank me later....actually really good prices...order a few lbs and tell me how you like.......


http://www.blackwing.com/landing_full.php?cmc=1006&gclid=CO24kqeLppECFQiaPAodEQrHgA

 

[JKurz1]

just realized.....this is going to be tax season....so my third meal will be about noon with my 4th meal about 3-4pm with training at 7pm leaving me with only my pw shake and then my prebed treat of cookie and shake...I think I need another meal in there number 1 after my pw shake and then I also need more protein in meal #1...I have a call into my trainer....maybe you guys could offer some advice. Then my training needs work too...no cardio but I do like to take only one day off a week......hmmm