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Tone and Tighten

automaticj5

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Hey Guys -- I have been around here for a while now and just had a question --

Do any of you have a nice 3 day workout to tone and tighten for a female?

Is it better to do a full body workout 3 days when toning or differently?

Anyway -- she is 5'4 120 and looking to tighten and tone to where she used to be, just looking for a workout she can hit 3x a week.

Thanks
 
"Toning" and "tightening" doesn't exist. It's called losing fat.

Put her on a standard cut. Find out her BMR, add like 300 calories, 30/50/20, run 4 hours a week.
 
automaticj5 said:
Hey Guys -- I have been around here for a while now and just had a question --

Do any of you have a nice 3 day workout to tone and tighten for a female?

Is it better to do a full body workout 3 days when toning or differently?

Anyway -- she is 5'4 120 and looking to tighten and tone to where she used to be, just looking for a workout she can hit 3x a week.

Thanks

I've always been curious as to the meaning of "tone".
 
Tone = muscle not covered by fat.

THere are marathon runners with tone.

Train exactly like a guy.

A calorie deficit is required, focus your workout on compound exercises that boost resting metabolism the most, something like 3x3. The following exercises are your friends: squats, deadlifts, bench, rows, chins/pullups, dips, close grip bench

Will you get bulky like a guy doing this?

NO.

2 reasons

(1) women have less testosterone than men. Few women get bulky (your probably don't have genetics of Serena Williams)

(2) Your dieting, consuming a calorie deficit. It's not possible to put on significant amounts - or arguably even any - muscle during a calorie deficit.

(3) IF you ever decide your too beefy, you can always increase rep range decrease rest breaks. Too many women waste time in the gym doing 100+ repetitions of pointless exercise (arm curls), thinking they're "toning" themselves or some other crap. But for a male natural trainee doing cardio, realise that they will gain probably 5-6 kg per year doing quite well. So a women, even operating in calorie surplus trying to gain muscle, will gain far less. IT's a slow process - you can stop it if you are unhappy, plus I again refer to point 2.



automaticj5 said:
Hey Guys -- I have been around here for a while now and just had a question --

Do any of you have a nice 3 day workout to tone and tighten for a female?

Is it better to do a full body workout 3 days when toning or differently?

Anyway -- she is 5'4 120 and looking to tighten and tone to where she used to be, just looking for a workout she can hit 3x a week.

Thanks
 
Sim882 said:
(1) women have less testosterone than men. Few women get bulky (your probably don't have genetics of Serena Williams)

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Short women get bulky too quickly. Asian women start to look quite unattractive quickly in the gym unless they're lucky enough to be tall.
 
tropo said:
Short women get bulky too quickly. Asian women start to look quite unattractive quickly in the gym unless they're lucky enough to be tall.

As a short woman, I take offense to that statement. I only look bulky when I am chubby. :)

I have A LOT of muscle for a natural, but I have had to work hard for it, and I train pretty hard core, and my diet is pretty bang on.

I look chubby far less often now that I am a bodybuilder even though I weight A LOT more.

Muscle takes up less space than fat.

I also agree with the lads, 'tone' is one of the most mis-used physiological term in the fitness area.

Either you have muscle or you do not, you either have a higher bodyfat percentage or a lower one.

It is really that simple.

I am also not sure what you mean by 'tighten' either. If you mean skin's elasticity, a lot of that is genetic.

If you think of what the body is composed of, moving bone outward, you have muscle (with connective tissue and tendons), a layer of fat, and then skin.

Nothing else there, so you will either have fat or muscle. And people lose muscle as they age when they don't train.

Muscle is metabolically active, and burns loads of calories to maintain itself.

Fat doesn't.

She can train exactly the same as a man.

If she is new to training, an all over program back to basic compounds like squats, bench, deadlift, military press and rows is perfect.

Otherwise a three day split is fine too:

Legs/Shoulders

Back/Triceps or Biceps

Chest/Triceps or Biceps

Mix in abs and calves every alternating workout.


CT scan of a thigh of woman that trains and one that doesn't.

Center white - femur

yellow - muscle

red - fat
 
I like the scan!

A lot of chubby women will ask me what they should do, I say you should do weights with your diet + cardio, and they retort I'll get too muscular.

I always feel like retorting "the cirucmference of your legs and arms is greater than mine, it just yours is fatty looking, mine is not". I have never quite been so direct, but your photo says it all



Tatyana said:
As a short woman, I take offense to that statement. I only look bulky when I am chubby. :)

I have A LOT of muscle for a natural, but I have had to work hard for it, and I train pretty hard core, and my diet is pretty bang on.

I look chubby far less often now that I am a bodybuilder even though I weight A LOT more.

Muscle takes up less space than fat.

I also agree with the lads, 'tone' is one of the most mis-used physiological term in the fitness area.

Either you have muscle or you do not, you either have a higher bodyfat percentage or a lower one.

It is really that simple.

I am also not sure what you mean by 'tighten' either. If you mean skin's elasticity, a lot of that is genetic.

If you think of what the body is composed of, moving bone outward, you have muscle (with connective tissue and tendons), a layer of fat, and then skin.

Nothing else there, so you will either have fat or muscle. And people lose muscle as they age when they don't train.

Muscle is metabolically active, and burns loads of calories to maintain itself.

Fat doesn't.

She can train exactly the same as a man.

If she is new to training, an all over program back to basic compounds like squats, bench, deadlift, military press and rows is perfect.

Otherwise a three day split is fine too:

Legs/Shoulders

Back/Triceps or Biceps

Chest/Triceps or Biceps

Mix in abs and calves every alternating workout.


CT scan of a thigh of woman that trains and one that doesn't.

Center white - femur

yellow - muscle

red - fat
 
Tatyana said:
As a short woman, I take offense to that statement. I only look bulky when I am chubby. :)

I'm not sure if you're quite as short as I had in mind. I live in Asia, and short for me means below 5'. 5'1" and up is getting tall.

It's very easy to appear bulky at that height.

The comment was that women don't tend to bulk up easily, but at sub-5' heights this simply is not true.
 
Dr Angel Spassov, PHD., D.Sc. :
No other but weight exercises acheive the overall toning of the physique...

In order to eliminate bulkiness in women weightlifters he recommends 20 min. of relaxation exercises following exercise.
since the muscles are filled in with blood, their length having been decreased after the heavy work. This state of the muscles reduces the joints amplitude as a consequence to which woman's movements become clumsy and awkward. The many repetitions of this state transform the woman's figure, it acquires the manners of a man. This has an impact not only on the woman herself but on the sport she trains also. That is why relaxation exercises have to be attached with the same importance as to loading ones. In this relation, both water massage and swimming are considered to be most suitable.
 
fortunatesun said:
Dr Angel Spassov, PHD., D.Sc. :


In order to eliminate bulkiness in women weightlifters he recommends 20 min. of relaxation exercises following exercise.

How is a woman, aiming to tone - which to her means lose weight - going to get bulky on a calorie deficit?

It's not possible. I would love to get bulky on a calorie deficit! Then us guys could have 8 packs all year round

Also, Marathon runners after all still do weights!
 
Physiology
a. The normal state of elastic tension or partial contraction in resting muscles.

b. Normal firmness of a tissue or an organ.
 
Yeah -- she is 5'4 about 118 -- when I say she wants to get back to where she was -- this is a 19yr old girl who has ALWAYS been able to eat what she wants and barely ever excercise... she used to goto the gym a few days a week but stopped and just kept eating her great foods like ice cream pops, brownies, ice cream and anything else she sees cause her family has incredible metabolism... her bros are all ripped up and eat like shit, but they do workout... Anyway the main thing was -- I have been telling to her to join my workouts and do most of what I do at a lot lighter weight(obviously) I just wanted to make sure I wasn't mis-leading her... she doesnt listen when I tell her not to eat how she does...lol

She modeled when she was 16, 17 and 18 and wants to tone up her tummy so she can do it again...

THanks everyone.
 
and tighten -- I meant she keeps saying she doesnt want her ass "jiggly" anymore, lol -- I realize thats squats and other movements which I make her do, along with losing the weight... her skin is genetically tight...
 
Sim882 said:
How is a woman, aiming to tone - which to her means lose weight - going to get bulky on a calorie deficit?

It's not possible. I would love to get bulky on a calorie deficit! Then us guys could have 8 packs all year round

Also, Marathon runners after all still do weights!
At minus calories, sure. My post was a more generalized response to questions about gaining unnecessary bulk through weightlifting.
 
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