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Tomorrow is September 11th

Did anyone else loose any close friends, family or co-workers?

I lost several close friends and parents of friends that day. Very hard time.

Now it is easier throughout the year but when the date comes up it always recreates that horrible day.

What were you doing that horrible morning?
 
I was at work at City Hall. The first plane crashed and they shut City Hall down. I got home and was stuck to the TV all day and night. Watched the 2nd plane hit the tower live. Very sad and crazy to see. Phones were shut down becuase of the large amounts of calls and everything. Very sad days to follow...
 
i was inside
 
yonkers weights said:
Are you really fucking around with fake stories about 9/11...
WTF is wrong with you people? Have you no shame or respect for others?

it was 6 years ago.. I've moved on
 
yonkers weights said:
Moving on and having respect are 2 different things. Some people are just no class. I hope you die!


lolololololol
 
I was on the ICQ with The Ranger and I thought for sure he was fucking with me (he was always SUCH a cutup) when he told me what was happening. I didn't believe him until I left my PC and turned on the TV (I never watched TV).

My exbrotherinlaw was uncharacteristically late to work that morning. He worked for Dean Witter. As his train finally pulled into the station and he tried to come up the steps he and all the others were forced back down into the subway from the smoke and ash. His son worked for another brokerage firm was in a building facing the twin towers. He saw it all - hundreds up people screaming for help and plummeting to their deaths when they desperately jumped.

My ex and I had not been divorced yet and was visibly shaken by what had happened as the family did not know about my exbro-in-law or his son for many hours. We had one of 2/3 lucid conversations since we split. He said that he didn't want to fight and that he would settle because now he saw how truly short life was.

Ironically his brother has since died (from AIDS) but he just keeps on breathing.

It's also my niece's birthday.... so it is a wierd feeling for us. The first time ever as an American I saw tanks rolling down the streets.... the same reason why my parents moved here - to avoid that. I suppose none of us are truly safe or free... are we?
 
She's actually too young to realize the signifigance of the date... and now since they moved it will most likely not be too much of an impact for her.

But for my sister and I it was surreal. I still remember driving to work seeing all the black smoke from the NJ Turnpike....

Then you couldn't turn a TV on for WEEKS without seeing that shit over and over and over again... and all the freaking dummy parents letting their children watch it over and over and over again. Wasn't it bad enough for the kids who live there and who lost parent's and other loved ones?

The whole thing is very surreal for me. I think that the images of the tanks was what shook me up the most. Growing up I was always reminded of the tanks rolling down the streets in Budapest and all the young kids who rose up and tried to rebel armed with nothing more than Malotov cocktails. Now to imagine that in the US?.... was too much. And yet my family is moving back...

I am greatly saddened by my country.

I was always appreciative that my ex bro-inlaw and his son were not harmed but I can't for the life of my understand the rest of that family to have been affected so little that they continued on their path of hatred and abuse when they had all been given a chance to be spared from loss....

C'est la vie.
 
I heard on the radio the other day that one of the major TV channels in NY is not televising the reading of the names for the first time.
 
For the ones making jokes in this thread, grow up. As a firefighter myself who has been to my fair share of funerals, either keep out of this thread or go to another board. Let me give you a little insight on what those guys went through, then you can go look in the mirror and ask yourself how much of a fucking man you really are. 80 floors up. Most of you would be pretty fucking winded, right or wrong? Now, add 60 lbs of gear on you and a respirator, little harder, right or wrong? Now, keep in mind that most cylinders will only give the firefighter 20 minutes of air, UNDER NORMAL BREATHING CONDITIONS, not serious exertion, most likely 12 minutes on average if your working. So this means each guy had 2 extra cyclinders he's carrying up 80 flights of stairs. Also, dont forget your tools, Pike pole, axe, haligan tool, etc. So each guy is carrying appr. 100 more lbs than his bodyweight under hot, smoky conditions. Now that your out of breath from all this shit, try keying up your mic and talking on a command channel, which there is so much fucking havoc you cant even get through to yell for a fucking May day because your dying. And just 15 minutes ago you were playing basketball with the guys, washing the trucks, mopping the bay floor, talking to your wife on your cell, whatever. Now it's all gone. We risk a lot to save a lot, even if it was some schmucks like you who joke about people dying and tell everybody to move on.
 
reno240 said:
I heard on the radio the other day that one of the major TV channels in NY is not televising the reading of the names for the first time.

Thank God - Finally.
 
abolish the weak said:
For the ones making jokes in this thread, grow up. As a firefighter myself who has been to my fair share of funerals, either keep out of this thread or go to another board. Let me give you a little insight on what those guys went through, then you can go look in the mirror and ask yourself how much of a fucking man you really are. 80 floors up. Most of you would be pretty fucking winded, right or wrong? Now, add 60 lbs of gear on you and a respirator, little harder, right or wrong? Now, keep in mind that most cylinders will only give the firefighter 20 minutes of air, UNDER NORMAL BREATHING CONDITIONS, not serious exertion, most likely 12 minutes on average if your working. So this means each guy had 2 extra cyclinders he's carrying up 80 flights of stairs. Also, dont forget your tools, Pike pole, axe, haligan tool, etc. So each guy is carrying appr. 100 more lbs than his bodyweight under hot, smoky conditions. Now that your out of breath from all this shit, try keying up your mic and talking on a command channel, which there is so much fucking havoc you cant even get through to yell for a fucking May day because your dying. And just 15 minutes ago you were playing basketball with the guys, washing the trucks, mopping the bay floor, talking to your wife on your cell, whatever. Now it's all gone. We risk a lot to save a lot, even if it was some schmucks like you who joke about people dying and tell everybody to move on.
I do a run called "Hustle up the Hancock" every year here in Chicago. It's called the marathon of stair climbs - pretty much - you run up the 94 floors of the hancock tower. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING pisses me off more then when I am coughing and wheezing my way up and firefighters run by me in full gear. :) I just turn around and head down after that. :)
 
abolish the weak said:
For the ones making jokes in this thread, grow up. As a firefighter myself who has been to my fair share of funerals, either keep out of this thread or go to another board. Let me give you a little insight on what those guys went through, then you can go look in the mirror and ask yourself how much of a fucking man you really are. 80 floors up. Most of you would be pretty fucking winded, right or wrong? Now, add 60 lbs of gear on you and a respirator, little harder, right or wrong? Now, keep in mind that most cylinders will only give the firefighter 20 minutes of air, UNDER NORMAL BREATHING CONDITIONS, not serious exertion, most likely 12 minutes on average if your working. So this means each guy had 2 extra cyclinders he's carrying up 80 flights of stairs. Also, dont forget your tools, Pike pole, axe, haligan tool, etc. So each guy is carrying appr. 100 more lbs than his bodyweight under hot, smoky conditions. Now that your out of breath from all this shit, try keying up your mic and talking on a command channel, which there is so much fucking havoc you cant even get through to yell for a fucking May day because your dying. And just 15 minutes ago you were playing basketball with the guys, washing the trucks, mopping the bay floor, talking to your wife on your cell, whatever. Now it's all gone. We risk a lot to save a lot, even if it was some schmucks like you who joke about people dying and tell everybody to move on.

No disrespect to what you do but people do need to move on - the media needs to move on and let people heal and continue living.

Every year of this public mourning prevents people from doing so and I have to be honest, it irks me that only the lives of the people that were lost on 9/11 are being celebrated and remembered.

What about the soldiers we sent to find "weapons of mass destruction" and what about the people that currently have lung damage and enevidably a death sentence from helping out on 9/11 and the days that followed - who celebrates their lives? Who remembers them? Who speak their names?

I'm not knocking the loss of a loved one nor am I being flip to this tragedy but death and tragedy happen everyday and the masses don't care about the losses of another person, they are not remembered on TV, they are mourned by the masses, they're just another man, woman or child who's time is up.

Imagine if doctors and nurses outwardly mourned year after year the patients that they lost?
 
yonkers weights said:
Are you really fucking around with fake stories about 9/11...
WTF is wrong with you people? Have you no shame or respect for others?


my friend you have posted this thread in the wrong place. im not american, but people fucking around over other peoples misery makes me sick.

it is quite obvious that they had a piss poor upbringing and offer nothing beneficial to society .
 
abolish the weak said:
For the ones making jokes in this thread, grow up. As a firefighter myself who has been to my fair share of funerals, either keep out of this thread or go to another board. Let me give you a little insight on what those guys went through, then you can go look in the mirror and ask yourself how much of a fucking man you really are. 80 floors up. Most of you would be pretty fucking winded, right or wrong? Now, add 60 lbs of gear on you and a respirator, little harder, right or wrong? Now, keep in mind that most cylinders will only give the firefighter 20 minutes of air, UNDER NORMAL BREATHING CONDITIONS, not serious exertion, most likely 12 minutes on average if your working. So this means each guy had 2 extra cyclinders he's carrying up 80 flights of stairs. Also, dont forget your tools, Pike pole, axe, haligan tool, etc. So each guy is carrying appr. 100 more lbs than his bodyweight under hot, smoky conditions. Now that your out of breath from all this shit, try keying up your mic and talking on a command channel, which there is so much fucking havoc you cant even get through to yell for a fucking May day because your dying. And just 15 minutes ago you were playing basketball with the guys, washing the trucks, mopping the bay floor, talking to your wife on your cell, whatever. Now it's all gone. We risk a lot to save a lot, even if it was some schmucks like you who joke about people dying and tell everybody to move on.
shut the fuck up you non plat alter scum cookie.
 
velvett said:
No disrespect to what you do but people do need to move on - the media needs to move on and let people heal and continue living.

Every year of this public mourning prevents people from doing so and I have to be honest, it irks me that only the lives of the people that were lost on 9/11 are being celebrated and remembered.

What about the soldiers we sent to find "weapons of mass destruction" and what about the people that currently have lung damage and enevidably a death sentence from helping out on 9/11 and the days that followed - who celebrates their lives? Who remembers them? Who speak their names?

I'm not knocking the loss of a loved one nor am I being flip to this tragedy but death and tragedy happen everyday and the masses don't care about the losses of another person, they are not remembered on TV, they are mourned by the masses, they're just another man, woman or child who's time is up.

Imagine if doctors and nurses outwardly mourned year after year the patients that they lost?


clearly you must have been a world away from nyc and not been effected in the slightest bit. you know nothing of the pain we all went through that day and the YEARS that have passed. i can describe to you to the second where i was that day.

why should we remember? close to 3000 innocent people were murdered in the name of terror. big difference than a family being killed in a car accident. thats why its called an accident. these unfortunate things happen everyday and i feel for everyone who suffers for them and i wish no ill will on anyone. to compare 9/11 to an ordinary day is just ridiculous.

its a shame most of america feels like you. when tradegy on a mass scale hits your neck of the woods i wonder how you will feel?
 
I was in Western Colorado repairing and rigging up Nabors 909 after it was stacked in the yard for a few years.

Didn't even hear about it until lunch time.
 
timtim said:
clearly you must have been a world away from nyc and not been effected in the slightest bit. you know nothing of the pain we all went through that day and the YEARS that have passed. i can describe to you to the second where i was that day.

why should we remember? close to 3000 innocent people were murdered in the name of terror. big difference than a family being killed in a car accident. thats why its called an accident. these unfortunate things happen everyday and i feel for everyone who suffers for them and i wish no ill will on anyone. to compare 9/11 to an ordinary day is just ridiculous.

its a shame most of america feels like you. when tradegy on a mass scale hits your neck of the woods i wonder how you will feel?

I am from NYC - I know people that were there and survived, I know someone that died and I know another man who in his 40's has a 65% loss in lung capacity due to his efforts to try and help clean up the mess that was left behind - his doctors give him less than 10 years to live - no one will sit and remember him while his children grow up and watch him die.

Shame on YOU for judging me and not letting me have my own opinion that reading off a list of names is completely unneccessary. How many more years will people have to dredge up the sadness that comes along in having to re-live the event over and over again.

I never once compared 9/11 to car accidents - you made that assumption - I never specified. Who remembers the 3774 soliders that have died in the Iraq war since 2003 - or the 27,000+ that were wounded?

And since it's not clear to you - WE don't all feel the same way as you and 8 million other people that you assume feel as you do.
 
Ya, i'm sure Velvett meant any harm in her post you know she's one of the meanest people on the board. She was simply making a point.
 
velvett said:
I am from NYC - I know people that were there and survived, I know someone that died and I know another man who in his 40's has a 65% loss in lung capacity due to his efforts to try and help clean up the mess that was left behind - his doctors give him less than 10 years to live - no one will sit and remember him while his children grow up and watch him die.

Shame on YOU for judging me and not letting me have my own opinion that reading off a list of names is completely unneccessary. How many more years will people have to dredge up the sadness that comes along in having to re-live the event over and over again.

I never once compared 9/11 to car accidents - you made that assumption - I never specified. Who remembers the 3774 soliders that have died in the Iraq war since 2003 - or the 27,000+ that were wounded?

And since it's not clear to you - WE don't all feel the same way as you and 8 million other people that you assume feel as you do.

i apologize for my wrong assumption. i still feel 9/11 like it was yesterday and with your close ties to the whole thing why should we stop saying their names? you are right, we think differently and that is ok. i was wrong for jumping on your comment. i had a very long year after 9/11, changed alot of who i was for a long while. you are stronger, good for you.
 
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