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Tom Daschle Caught LYING

this sums it up...but as usual the republicans on this board with, WAG THE DOG so to say...and avoid the facts..



The Faking of the Presidency
By Joe Otterbein

With words like "civility" and "bipartisan cooperation" President Bush is courting the Democrats and trying to assure the public he can bring a new tone to politics in Washington. The words and tone are sweet and giddy, and the GOP and the compliant corporate media are obviously charmed. But I am not so sure that either the congressional Democrats, or the public, are feeling so warm and fuzzy.
To show how nice they can be, Bush's congressional GOP allies are still trying to impeach Clinton in the court of public opinion by holding a hearing over Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich. Certainly the same gang that watched Caspar Weinberger get a presidential pardon a few days before George Bush Sr. was to testify at his hearing, could not suddenly be worried that a president might abuse the pardon power.

You would think that the GOP would want to concentrate on making sure that they and their rich contributors get a cash payback boondoggle by passing Bush's tax cut. Instead, the news is filled with the hearing on the Rich pardon. Why is the GOP stepping on their own priorities by beating a dead horse?

The truth is the GOP does not want Clinton to fade away because he provides a distraction from the Bush Presidency itself. If they take the heat off Clinton, they are afraid the real heat may begin on Bush.

One wonders what Bush must have been feeling when he saw more demonstrators along the inaugural parade than spectators. How does he feel now about the polls showing him with the highest disapproval rating of any new president in modern times? Sure he is the one who is in the White House, but he has yet to win the hearts of anyone but those who voted for him. It is hard to act presidential when you know that more Americans voted for your opponent.

The problem is for Bush, and his supporters, is that no matter how red-faced and indignant they become when question of Bush's legitimacy is raised, Bush does not know like what it feels like to be a legitimate president. Because that legitimacy can only come from the will of the people, and the will of the people was that they wanted Al Gore to be president.

No army of politicians armed with subpoenas and hearings and no amount of paid political pundits expressing disgust with Clinton, can ever overcome that basic fact. It does not matter that you live in the White House with all its power and glory, when you know deep down that the victory belonged to another man.

This is why Bush must continue to kiss up to the Democrats while allowing his party to keep the heat on Clinton in the news. It is the only way he can keep that one nagging problem buried from himself and the public. No wonder he stares at his cue cards and keeps Dick Cheney at his side when he speaks. He is not confident enough in his own legitimacy to talk to the people straight on.

The age-old question of what price must be paid for glory comes to mind. How disappointing it must be to know that the people did not elect you president. And how shallow it must feel knowing that you won all that glory not by the legitimate intent of the voters, but instead by the will and power of your brother's and father's friends.

What really galls the GOP about Clinton, is that they know he twice won more votes than his GOP opponents, making him our last legitimately elected president. How painful it must be to know that the man they constantly tried, and continue to try, to destroy with countless investigations and hearings, still has the support of more Americans than Bush.

That is why they cannot let Clinton go now. They must continue to bash him until the people no longer feel he was a legitimate president. Clinton's legitimacy is something Bush does not have. Bush cannot even fake his own legitimacy very well. Therefore, the GOP will not stop their witch-hunts, until they have destroyed Clinton.




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The GOP still can't believe that most Americans really don't care that Clinton lied about his sex life. They will be really surprised when they find out that people (real people not media staged events,) don't like like politicians that steal elections from them.

But that's what this Clinton bashing is all about. Let's forget that little episode down in Florida as quickly as possible, so we can go back to having lavish parties for our contributors in peace. And to make sure we make a few more bucks, let's give them a big tax break. Maybe we can even have our parties on submarines, and let our donors race them around a little!

If Clinton lied about a hundred women, it is completely irrelevant when compared to the theft of an election. Maybe the corporate controlled media does want the people to think about it, but they are.

Most Americans now understand that the "liberal media" is a myth, manufactured by the media itself to hide it's corporate nature and pro big money bias. Unless you really think the GOP, with all that money, is never corrupt, you have to know that they are not perfect. If we are so concerned with what is right, then why not look into some GOP crimes, like the ones in Florida?

Oh, I forgot. All of a sudden, we don't have time for stuff like that, now the GOP and the media want to look to the future!

Yea right, the future - of more Clinton bashing.
 
oh and dont forget on Feb 10th the bush *CREW* announces they are, and get this "99% sure there will be another terrorists attack on America on 2/11/02" hmmmmmmm funny how Bush releases this info RIGHT AFTER HE REALIZES HE HAS THE WORST APPROVAL RATING EVER.... bottom line is that announcement was utter BULLSHIT to try to salvage his approval rating..... like Bush's entire "presidency"...

republican business as usual.....
 
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NY Muscle said:
oh and dont forget on Feb 10th the bush *CREW* announces they are, and get this "99% sure there will be another terrorists attack on America on 2/11/02" hmmmmmmm funny how Bush releases this info RIGHT AFTER HE REALIZES HE HAS THE WORST APPROVAL RATING EVER.... bottom line is that announcement was utter BULLSHIT to try to salvage his approval rating..... like Bush's entire "presidency"...

republican business as usual.....


The term has not yet been completed. Instead of "presidency" use "time in office," its more appopriate.
 
Golfer18 said:



The term has not yet been completed. Instead of "presidency" use "time in office," its more appopriate.

thank you for pointing out something so irrelevant to the arguement...you all know what i meant.

you MUST be repubilcan...
 
"Republican" "conservative" "liberal" blah blah blah.

Things are a little more complex than this childish either/or. Both parties use the tactics that NYMUSCLE has denounced.

Anyone have any facts on anything?
 
And your statements about Clinton---YOu further prove your lack of political savy. He did more damage to America than any other in recent history.

Here´s one.

And about the economy---fixing an economy in recession is a heavy task, especially during war. This does not happen over night. much like Clinton taking credit for the legislation of the repubs before him.

And another
 
NY Muscle said:
oh and dont forget on Feb 10th the bush *CREW* announces they are, and get this "99% sure there will be another terrorists attack on America on 2/11/02" hmmmmmmm funny how Bush releases this info RIGHT AFTER HE REALIZES HE HAS THE WORST APPROVAL RATING EVER.... bottom line is that announcement was utter BULLSHIT to try to salvage his approval rating..... like Bush's entire "presidency"...

republican business as usual.....

umm...Bush has the highest and longest approval rating since kennedy. where are you getting your facts from?
 
p0ink said:


umm...Bush has the highest and longest approval rating since kennedy. where are you getting your facts from?

hahha WHAT? what planet are you on?

so no one cant give a rebutal to the claims/facts that were presented in the article i posted? I didnt think so.....
 
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NY Muscle said:


Every good thing i bring up you republicans will denounce and bring up bad things..... every godo thing you republicans bring up the democrats will denounce and bring up bad things as well.

ive re-read the entire thread and have not found one thing you presented for your arguement, whether its your comments about bush or clinton.

NO one can win this arguement with so many of you narrow minded people...i told you ARGUING i spointless, if you cant see that... then god help you.

yes, argueing is spointless, but, people can still exchange ideas and opinions in an effort to learn more. all you have done here is continually express how argueing is useless and nonthing gets accomplished. you brought up bush and reagan, yet this thread is about dascle. i think the bottom line is that you dont like bush or reagan just because, "you dont like them". you have no real reasons.

So hows the missles and guns the rupublican presidency helped IRAN get ....and you bring up bin laden LOL funny

they've prolly been used, whats your point? i seriously doubt you have one.


enough said

enough said
 
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