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Told my broly tonight that he has a drinking problem...

I recently did the same with my own little sister. She heard concern from me as well as my parents. She must have identified it herself as well, because she's been sober for about 25 days now. I'm very happy for her
 
samoth said:
... and he, of course, didn't take it too well.

Something I've never done before.

I hope I at least gave him something to think about...

... and I hope even more that I might have made a slight difference in some way or another.




:cow:

good for you man - thats a tough thing to do.
 
samoth said:
... and he, of course, didn't take it too well.

Something I've never done before.

I hope I at least gave him something to think about...

... and I hope even more that I might have made a slight difference in some way or another.




:cow:


In my teens my best friend became a crackhead despite my best efforts. I know how this feels.
 
Good for you bro. My mom was a acholic when i was growing up and she was a mean drunk and used to beat me when i was young evenutally my sister got taken away from her. She is fine today. Drinking can become a real problem if its not addressed really early
 
how old is he samoth?
 
Wootoom said:
how old is he samoth?

24, a couple years younger than me. It started with just "having fun" all the time (started pretty heavy with weed, too, but he's subsided with that)... now he can't do anything or go anywhere without there being alcohol present. It's kind like I lost a best friend.

Of course, he doesn't see it as a problem at all :rolleyes:. This from a guy whose father had bad aloholic tendencies when he was younger. Bad as in throwing my broly through a wall when he was in high school... he lied about it, but the teacher knew better, contacted the principle, and he told the truth about what his dad did. The police came to his father's work and arrested him in front of all his coworkers (nice white-collar job).

He's one of the few friends I have left, and since he's gotten heavily into pot [earlier] and now alcohol to an extreme, I feel as if I don't even know him any more... it's really kinda sad.

I got him really into bodybuilding some years back, and he was totally into it, but he's a smaller built guy, and while he looks good and all (for a shorter, 165lb low-BF kid), he never saw the rippling Ahnold bicepts and has since given up lifting in exchange for something more 'fun' [read: drinking with friends. Or by himself. Everyday. *sigh*]



:cow:
 
You gotta do that man, some people will continue to take steps backwards until they are pushed forward.
 
someone should do that with me, i get based out on the regular.
seriously though, i hope he can make a solid recovery
 
It's a tough thing to hear, but you know when you have a problem. Sometimes it's scary to quit because you're afraid you'll fail at it.

His life will be so much better if he stopps. At the very least, you planted the seed.
 
jnevin said:
It's a tough thing to hear, but you know when you have a problem. Sometimes it's scary to quit because you're afraid you'll fail at it.

His life will be so much better if he stopps. At the very least, you planted the seed.

Only the very strong can do it before its too late. Most have to hit a "breaking point" until something reallyt happens. i.e. they hit a spouse, almost kill someon ein a car etc. etc.

Even then some do not stop.
 
patsfan1379 said:
Only the very strong can do it before its too late. Most have to hit a "breaking point" until something reallyt happens. i.e. they hit a spouse, almost kill someon ein a car etc. etc.

Even then some do not stop.


I was a daily drinker, knew that I had/ have a problem, and I fought quitting for years because I'm functional. I didn't have anything like that happen, but my daily misery and lack of self respect got to be too much. I went 5 months, slipped up one week, and just hit my 60 day mark a few days ago. I have a family history of it. Both grandfathers died in part from it, and I know my dad and brother will never quit. It's a hard thing to stop when you give yourself a high bottom. I never bottomed out, I just got tired of it.
 
samoth said:
... and he, of course, didn't take it too well.

Something I've never done before.

I hope I at least gave him something to think about...

... and I hope even more that I might have made a slight difference in some way or another.




:cow:

Good for you! My dad was a really bad alcoholic. He was a happy drunk, but he was killing his health. He has been sober for about 20 years now. =-)
 
Good for you samoth.

I will say though that I don't work like that at all and if one of my friends said something to me like that, depending on who it is (I'd have to realyl respect them), I'd probably show them the door and say I guess we're different people then. Later.

The only thing I might get such a thing with I'd say is marijuana. I smoke a lot of it but I know what I'm doing. I'm aware of my obsessive tendencies towards the shit and it doesn't interfere with school or my success in life whatsoever. It DOES make me not want to go out sometimes and I know that pisses my friends off. But, man, that part of me exists without drugs - that much I know about myself. I can get in funks and be anti-social.

For me, I spend a lot of time thinking about who I am and what in the fuck I'm doing in my life so for somebody to approach me and tell me they think they have a better handle on what I'm doing than I do would be offensive to me. I'd probably say I know what my habits are and I know how they impact me. I also know myself without my habits and if you think simply dropping a habit will fix shit you don't know me at all. I'm strange though.

I need to be interfered with when I'm doing something stupidly OCD and have lost sight of reality. I go way out there though so there's really no arguing my sanity.
And I find I know better when it comes to hard rugs and the like sicne they have a definite health and longevity cost.

If he wants to drink all the time, then he should be able to sit down and tell you how it'll probably kill him eventually and why he thinks that is a better option than not drinking himself to death.
 
Nathan said:
Good for you samoth.

I will say though that I don't work like that at all and if one of my friends said something to me like that, depending on who it is (I'd have to realyl respect them), I'd probably show them the door and say I guess we're different people then. Later.

The only thing I might get such a thing with I'd say is marijuana. I smoke a lot of it but I know what I'm doing. I'm aware of my obsessive tendencies towards the shit and it doesn't interfere with school or my success in life whatsoever. It DOES make me not want to go out sometimes and I know that pisses my friends off. But, man, that part of me exists without drugs - that much I know about myself. I can get in funks and be anti-social.

For me, I spend a lot of time thinking about who I am and what in the fuck I'm doing in my life so for somebody to approach me and tell me they think they have a better handle on what I'm doing than I do would be offensive to me. I'd probably say I know what my habits are and I know how they impact me. I also know myself without my habits and if you think simply dropping a habit will fix shit you don't know me at all. I'm strange though.

I need to be interfered with when I'm doing something stupidly OCD and have lost sight of reality. I go way out there though so there's really no arguing my sanity.
And I find I know better when it comes to hard rugs and the like sicne they have a definite health and longevity cost.

If he wants to drink all the time, then he should be able to sit down and tell you how it'll probably kill him eventually and why he thinks that is a better option than not drinking himself to death.

i'll give you a reach-around for a nickel bag of funk
 
Nathan said:
Good for you samoth.

I will say though that I don't work like that at all and if one of my friends said something to me like that, depending on who it is (I'd have to realyl respect them), I'd probably show them the door and say I guess we're different people then. Later.

The only thing I might get such a thing with I'd say is marijuana. I smoke a lot of it but I know what I'm doing. I'm aware of my obsessive tendencies towards the shit and it doesn't interfere with school or my success in life whatsoever. It DOES make me not want to go out sometimes and I know that pisses my friends off. But, man, that part of me exists without drugs - that much I know about myself. I can get in funks and be anti-social.

For me, I spend a lot of time thinking about who I am and what in the fuck I'm doing in my life so for somebody to approach me and tell me they think they have a better handle on what I'm doing than I do would be offensive to me. I'd probably say I know what my habits are and I know how they impact me. I also know myself without my habits and if you think simply dropping a habit will fix shit you don't know me at all. I'm strange though.

I need to be interfered with when I'm doing something stupidly OCD and have lost sight of reality. I go way out there though so there's really no arguing my sanity.
And I find I know better when it comes to hard rugs and the like sicne they have a definite health and longevity cost.

If he wants to drink all the time, then he should be able to sit down and tell you how it'll probably kill him eventually and why he thinks that is a better option than not drinking himself to death.


The same way, I am.

Inner stength, you have.
 
jnevin said:
I was a daily drinker, knew that I had/ have a problem, and I fought quitting for years because I'm functional. I didn't have anything like that happen, but my daily misery and lack of self respect got to be too much. I went 5 months, slipped up one week, and just hit my 60 day mark a few days ago. I have a family history of it. Both grandfathers died in part from it, and I know my dad and brother will never quit. It's a hard thing to stop when you give yourself a high bottom. I never bottomed out, I just got tired of it.

Sounds like my fella. He drinks everyday, but he doesn't get drunk, per se. I can't convince him that that is a problem because he goes to work everyday and takes good care of everything. It isn't until something bad happens that people will accept that there is anything wrong with that.
 
Nathan said:
I'd need a couple drink swith samoth's buddy before I'd be able to even joke around abuot that.

alright dick i'll do it for a blunt roach
 
heatherrae said:
Sounds like my fella. He drinks everyday, but he doesn't get drunk, per se. I can't convince him that that is a problem because he goes to work everyday and takes good care of everything. It isn't until something bad happens that people will accept that there is anything wrong with that.

I am trying to do this for a female friend of mine... she thinks it's cool to drink still... *(26yrsold)* Doesn't think it's a problem that not a day goes by without her drinking beer from sunup to sundown.... frustrating when people don't want to help themselves.
 
having just got out of rehab I have plenty of thoughts to share
basically there was three groups of addicts
oxycotin/dilaudid/lortabs-opiates
crack-meth
alcoholics
what a diverse bunch we were,but we shared addiction
 
4everhung said:
having just got out of rehab I have plenty of thoughts to share
basically there was three groups of addicts
oxycotin/dilaudid/lortabs-opiates
crack-meth
alcoholics
what a diverse bunch we were,but we shared addiction

did you give up snuff?
 
Ludendorf said:
did you use while in 'hab?
did they care?
any weed addicts?
snuff for sure
everybody either smokes or dips
no weed addicts and not much meth mentioned
those people on opiates looked like death coming up from detox
my second week I got moved up the hill to the new cabins(I named them beverly hills)
beverly hills had 4 cabins housing 16 each
one cabin for doctors
one cabin for nurses
one cabin for those paying 28,000 for 28 days
and the fourth cabin for those on shorter stays that staff deemed mature enough and responsible
I was there for 16 days for 8,000
my insurance covered it all but a 350.00 deductable
 
4everhung said:
snuff for sure
everybody either smokes or dips
no weed addicts and not much meth mentioned
those people on opiates looked like death coming up from detox
my second week I got moved up the hill to the new cabins(I named them beverly hills)
beverly hills had 4 cabins housing 16 each
one cabin for doctors
one cabin for nurses
one cabin for those paying 28,000 for 28 days
and the fourth cabin for those on shorter stays that staff deemed mature enough and responsible
I was there for 16 days for 8,000
my insurance covered it all but a 350.00 deductable

do you think you are cured?
think you'll ever hit the bottle again?
do you think that your line of work led you to drink?
 
Ludendorf said:
do you think you are cured?
think you'll ever hit the bottle again?
do you think that your line of work led you to drink?
I was sober for almost 9 years
feb'93 until oct'01
and yeah my job had a lot to do with it
 
samoth said:
... and he, of course, didn't take it too well.

Something I've never done before.

I hope I at least gave him something to think about...

... and I hope even more that I might have made a slight difference in some way or another.




:cow:
I hope so to.
Even though said person is seeming as though he/she is not listening, it is all sinking in. Some people change over night others hit destruction, either way I am sure he/she heard every word that you said.
 
patsfan1379 said:
Only the very strong can do it before its too late. Most have to hit a "breaking point" until something reallyt happens. i.e. they hit a spouse, almost kill someon ein a car etc. etc.

Even then some do not stop.

He already got a DUI last year and still continued to drive drunk. And I don't mean a few beers... I mean PLASTERED.

I normally don't interfere with others' lifes and choices, but this is pretty much my best friend for the last ten years, and I've been watching him go downhill for so long that I felt the need to say something.

Like someone already mentioned, I don't expect him to change overnight (or at all, for that matter), but I do hope I at least planted a seed of rational thought in his mind about how he is hurting himself, his other friends, and potentially totally strangers by continuing to drive intoxicated and let his daily drinking (binge drinking on the weekends, i.e Thursday, Friday and Saturday) interfere with his life. He recently started a lawn care business early this summer on top of his regular job... he gave it up about three months ago for reasons his partner is well aware of :sad:




:cow:
 
I"ve never had a drinking problem, never had a gambling problem, never killed anyone or beat anyone unconscious, don't have trouble holding a job, and don't do weird shit except talk to myself and yet some people actually think I'm crazy. I'm just too smart for them to understand.
 
Before you order a drink in public, you should read this!

Seven New York City bartenders were asked if they could nail a
woman's personality based on what she drinks. Though interviewed
separately, they concurred on almost all counts.

The results:

Drink: Beer
Personality: Causal, low-maintenance; down to earth.
Your Approach: Ch allenge her to a game of pool.

Drink: Blender Drinks
Personality: Flaky, whiny, annoying; a pain in the ass.
Your Approach: Avoid her, unless you want to be her cabana boy.

Drink: Mixed Drinks
Personality: Older, more refined, high maintenance, has very picky
taste; knows EXACTLY what she wants.
Your Approach: You won't have to approach her. If she's interested,
she'll send YOU a drink....... ......... ..

Drink: Wine ( does not include White Zinfandel)
Personality: Conservative and classy; sophisticated yet giggles.
Your Approach: Tell her you love to travel and spend quiet evenings
with friends.

Drink: White Zinfandel
Personality: Easy; thinks she is classy and sophisticated, actually,
she has NO clue.
Your Approach: Make her feel smarter than she is...this should be an
easy target.

Drink: Shots
Personality: Likes to hang with frat-boy pals and looking to get
totally drunk... and naked.
Your Approach: Easiest hit in the joint. You have been blessed.
Nothing to do but wait, however, be careful not to make her mad!

Drink: Tequila No explanations required - everyone just KNOWS what
happens there.

THEN, there is the MALE addendum ----
The deal with guys is, as always, very simple and clear cut:

Domestic Beer: He's poor and wants to get laid.

Imported Beer: He likes good beer and wants to get laid

Wine: He is hoping that the wine will give him a sophisticated image
to help him get laid.

Whiskey: He doesn't give a damn about anything but getting laid.

Tequila: He is thinking he has a chance with the toothless waitress

White Zinfandel: He's gay!
 
Since you had put up with him for years, you reserved the right to say something, especially since you were well aware of his lack of better role-models.

Good job planting the seed. Change is hard to deal with, as is watching a friend destroy his life. You were brave to stick with him instead of ditching him as a friend. Classy and faithful, Samoth.
 
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Wootoom said:
hes 24, hes still at the prime of his life i dont think he has a drinking problem


True he's still young, older than me =X, and he's "supposed" to be partying it up, but IT DOES have to start at some point. There is no age, there is no EXACT moment that people become alcoholics. It's a process. Everyone starts out just "having a good time".

I'm currently taking a break from drinking because I realized I was starting to have a problem. I've been drunk probably around 8-9 times this entire year. Which is quite a drop from the 5-6 times a week a year or so ago. I got tired of being drunk till 10 in the morning everday.
 
Its sad to say but some people have to lose everything and hit rock bottom before they change their life.
 
I went through this. Seriously.

Told my wif she had a coke problem.

She started fucking some guy that would give her coke so that she didnt' have to listen to me.

LOL.. whore.
 
Spartacus said:
how's he doing?

+1

I knew I had a problem for a while and was fully aware of what I was doing, but I didn't care because it was fun at the time. My dad voiced his concern over and over but it wasn't until my sister reached out to me that I decided to stop. I hope the same is true in your case.
 
Squeena said:
+1

I knew I had a problem for a while and was fully aware of what I was doing, but I didn't care because it was fun at the time. My dad voiced his concern over and over but it wasn't until my sister reached out to me that I decided to stop. I hope the same is true in your case.
youve got a fabulous sister
 
Good job. It's up to him what he will do. At least you will not have that voice in the back of your head that says "if only I would've told his thick headed ass". Like you said, you at least gave him something to think about. Which is all any friend can really do. :)
 
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