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Slyder190

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I still don't agree with a few things, well one really. But I do have to give props cuz they have all been running a tighter ship and overall, making this a better place. Great work guys!
 
I think there are things even the mods and "higher powers" are in disagreement with, but lines have to be drawn somewhere. Personally, I'm anti "thread locking." If someone is being a total ass clown doushebag, then that someone should be censored, but controversy makes the board go 'round.

Also, I think naming sources using un-tracable names (use initials or abbreviations) isn't such a horrible thing and allows for more info to more people. Other than that, yeah, the board is 1000% better than it was 2 years ago.
 
Yeah, there has been a big difference! Cleaned up alot, every other thread is locked, but every other thread is a newb with his 1st post saying have you heard of this. Its like all of a sudden there has been an influx of newbs with either lab or source threads. LOL!! But has been cleaner for sure. You can tell a difference.
 
fitwitlem said:
Yeah, there has been a big difference! Cleaned up alot, every other thread is locked, but every other thread is a newb with his 1st post saying have you heard of this. Its like all of a sudden there has been an influx of newbs with either lab or source threads. LOL!! But has been cleaner for sure. You can tell a difference.
This happens every year before spring and summer. Every year we find a few keepers in the crowed of newbs. List like fishing lol. We have to throw back more then we get to keep. Once in a wile we get a few big ones to. 2007 was good fishing if you ask me.
 
needtogetaas said:
This happens every year before spring and summer. Every year we find a few keepers in the crowed of newbs. List like fishing lol. We have to throw back more then we get to keep. Once in a wile we get a few big ones to. 2007 was good fishing if you ask me.

I'm a keeper, I'm a keeper!!!!
 
Nelson Montana said:
I think there are things even the mods and "higher powers" are in disagreement with, but lines have to be drawn somewhere. Personally, I'm anti "thread locking." If someone is being a total ass clown doushebag, then that someone should be censored, but controversy makes the board go 'round.

Also, I think naming sources using un-tracable names (use initials or abbreviations) isn't such a horrible thing and allows for more info to more people. Other than that, yeah, the board is 1000% better than it was 2 years ago.
I couldn't agree more. The main thing I disagree with is the no source checks allowed thing. What is the point of having these mods and vets around with all the info if they can't use it to keep the board members safe. Not like I have trouble finding someone somewhere to do a source check but still. I'm not saying everyone should be checking out sources for every new guy that shows up but that should be a common sense thing and not policy. I do agree that thing have gotten better. Not as good as they used to be a few years back but still better than it has been.
 
Source checks these days are no guarantee. I mean they never were but even less so today.

02gixxersix said:
I couldn't agree more. The main thing I disagree with is the no source checks allowed thing. What is the point of having these mods and vets around with all the info if they can't use it to keep the board members safe. Not like I have trouble finding someone somewhere to do a source check but still. I'm not saying everyone should be checking out sources for every new guy that shows up but that should be a common sense thing and not policy. I do agree that thing have gotten better. Not as good as they used to be a few years back but still better than it has been.
 
8and20 said:
Source checks these days are no guarantee. I mean they never were but even less so today.


I am so amused when I get request for source checks, like I have the foggiest :)
 
8and20 said:
Source checks these days are no guarantee. I mean they never were but even less so today.
Yeah you're def right about that. I'm still so paranoid at this point that even when people check out I'm still too scared to order. It's better than giving your money to a known scammer though.
 
02gixxersix said:
I couldn't agree more. The main thing I disagree with is the no source checks allowed thing. What is the point of having these mods and vets around with all the info if they can't use it to keep the board members safe. Not like I have trouble finding someone somewhere to do a source check but still. I'm not saying everyone should be checking out sources for every new guy that shows up but that should be a common sense thing and not policy. I do agree that thing have gotten better. Not as good as they used to be a few years back but still better than it has been.

Thanks (I think lol)

To the larger point, the owners and Admin of this board have clearly stated that this isnt a source board. PERIOD. They dont wish to host discussions of ANY aspect of buyng or selling.

The mission of this board is maximizing physical potential tru all available avenues. diet, supps, training, and intelligent responsible safe use of anabolics. Not helping anyone find the anabolics.


Anyone looking for that type of info needs to look elsewhere.

But if you want to know how to make best use of all the various bodybuilding tools, you're at the right place.
 
DBCOOPER said:
There is a huge differnce between intelligent and PARANOID!!!!!!

db - you spend an awful lot of time critisizing the rules that the owners and administrators have put in place for their site. I've told you this before, if you dont like the rules here, go find a site whose rules are more to your liking.

seems as a non-paying member, you're returning their hospitality by peeing on their shoes in post after post after post. Enough.

consider this a warning.
 
Mavafanculo said:
Thanks (I think lol)

To the larger point, the owners and Admin of this board have clearly stated that this isnt a source board. PERIOD. They dont wish to host discussions of ANY aspect of buyng or selling.

The mission of this board is maximizing physical potential tru all available avenues. diet, supps, training, and intelligent responsible safe use of anabolics. Not helping anyone find the anabolics.


Anyone looking for that type of info needs to look elsewhere.

But if you want to know how to make best use of all the various bodybuilding tools, you're at the right place.
It was a compliment. You guys are doing a great job cleaning this board up. I didn't even come here for a while because the board sucked. I'm back on her everyday now. I don't want to start an argument but anyone with half a brain can find a source on this board, but we can't discuss even the names of some UG's. However, that's not what I disagree with. I don't think we should openly talk about sources (at least private ones), but mods and respected vets should be able to do source checks through secure email like they always have. It's bad policy to say that staff, who I would assume includes the mods will not do source checks IMO. In my eyes the main purpose of these boards outside of education should be to keep the guys in this game as safe as possible, and on the education side of the house we could really summarize everything anyone would need to know by linking to a few posts which would really new posts unnecessary. The way we use this stuff doesn't change, but what does change is what labs are around, where and when it's safe, etc. I can search and find the answer to anything I need to know. But I can't use a post from 2 years ago to see what labs are good and whose gear is sterile etc. Just a thought. Open source posting is dumb, but in reality there are source posts all over this board.
 
I completely agree with no source talk! but i have to admit i was confused when you couldnt discuss prices...IMO (which is prob not of that much importance to the mods lol) but people need to know if they are getting ripped off..esp with all the busts going on!
 
02gixxersix said:
It was a compliment. You guys are doing a great job cleaning this board up. I didn't even come here for a while because the board sucked. I'm back on her everyday now. I don't want to start an argument but anyone with half a brain can find a source on this board, but we can't discuss even the names of some UG's. However, that's not what I disagree with. I don't think we should openly talk about sources (at least private ones), but mods and respected vets should be able to do source checks through secure email like they always have. It's bad policy to say that staff, who I would assume includes the mods will not do source checks IMO. In my eyes the main purpose of these boards outside of education should be to keep the guys in this game as safe as possible, and on the education side of the house we could really summarize everything anyone would need to know by linking to a few posts which would really new posts unnecessary. The way we use this stuff doesn't change, but what does change is what labs are around, where and when it's safe, etc. I can search and find the answer to anything I need to know. But I can't use a post from 2 years ago to see what labs are good and whose gear is sterile etc. Just a thought. Open source posting is dumb, but in reality there are source posts all over this board.
What people do off of this board is not our concern. What they do on it is though.
 
Mavafanculo said:
Thanks (I think lol)

To the larger point, the owners and Admin of this board have clearly stated that this isnt a source board. PERIOD. They dont wish to host discussions of ANY aspect of buyng or selling.

The mission of this board is maximizing physical potential tru all available avenues. diet, supps, training, and intelligent responsible safe use of anabolics. Not helping anyone find the anabolics.


Anyone looking for that type of info needs to look elsewhere.

But if you want to know how to make best use of all the various bodybuilding tools, you're at the right place.


+1. totally agree. for me anyway, this board is about planning a cycle and pct, and getting the best out of it with the help of a few good bros. not finding the actual products.
 
needtogetaas said:
What people do off of this board is not our concern. What they do on it is though.
Yeah I agree with that. That sticky says mods aren't allowed to do source checks. I thought the same thing because it really doesn't concern the board admin if people do source checks through external email.
 
02gixxersix said:
Yeah I agree with that. That sticky says mods aren't allowed to do source checks. I thought the same thing because it really doesn't concern the board admin if people do source checks through external email.
The rule still stands about mods not doing source checks.
 
needtogetaas said:
This happens every year before spring and summer. Every year we find a few keepers in the crowed of newbs. List like fishing lol. We have to throw back more then we get to keep. Once in a wile we get a few big ones to. 2007 was good fishing if you ask me.


Yes it was , i agree with you needto and you slyder .

Brad.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I think there are things even the mods and "higher powers" are in disagreement with, but lines have to be drawn somewhere. Personally, I'm anti "thread locking." If someone is being a total ass clown doushebag, then that someone should be censored, but controversy makes the board go 'round.

Also, I think naming sources using un-tracable names (use initials or abbreviations) isn't such a horrible thing and allows for more info to more people. Other than that, yeah, the board is 1000% better than it was 2 years ago.
i agree with nelson 100% ..best board around and mods are great .. but i had a few theards erazed for just askin bout other supps from diff companies or takin bout compounds certain mods might not like ... debate is good and the best stuff will always win in the long run .. no locks or thread deletes needed except in source threads
 
Its generally regarded that "secure email" has been compromised since the busts of last year. Be careful how you deal with people.
 
02gixxersix said:
Yeah I agree with that. That sticky says mods aren't allowed to do source checks. I thought the same thing because it really doesn't concern the board admin if people do source checks through external email.


If done through external mail and you are given a source that decides the next day to go scammer... are you going to do all your complaining through external email as well? Probably not. Then you are going to show up here, complain here, mod is going to have to chase rumors, do emails on your behalf, etc....

Doesn't sound fair.
 
MichaelScott said:
makes sense, then u end up the asshole if it goes bad

Not mention I would be in cahoots with the source and then as you complain, he and I are splitting the money you lost between us and I am deleting all your threads off the board to protect him and such... and whatever rumors/conspiracy stories go along with this scenario when it happens.

I take a big enough legal risk with my own anabolic use for MYSELF. I don't want to start taking legal risks for someone else's anabolic use.
 
hurricane187 said:
i agree with nelson 100% ..best board around and mods are great .. but i had a few theards erazed for just askin bout other supps from diff companies or takin bout compounds certain mods might not like ... debate is good and the best stuff will always win in the long run .. no locks or thread deletes needed except in source threads
When you think you had a thread locked just because it was talking about another product. Think again and ask a mod what happen to the thread and why.
 
Mavafanculo said:
Thanks (I think lol)

To the larger point, the owners and Admin of this board have clearly stated that this isnt a source board. PERIOD. They dont wish to host discussions of ANY aspect of buyng or selling.

The mission of this board is maximizing physical potential tru all available avenues. diet, supps, training, and intelligent responsible safe use of anabolics. Not helping anyone find the anabolics.


Anyone looking for that type of info needs to look elsewhere.

But if you want to know how to make best use of all the various bodybuilding tools, you're at the right place.

I agree completely. The mods have done a great job to keep the forums safe, friendly and scam-free. Great job!
 
AAP said:
If done through external mail and you are given a source that decides the next day to go scammer... are you going to do all your complaining through external email as well? Probably not. Then you are going to show up here, complain here, mod is going to have to chase rumors, do emails on your behalf, etc....

Doesn't sound fair.

+1
 
Slyder190 said:
I still don't agree with a few things, well one really. But I do have to give props cuz they have all been running a tighter ship and overall, making this a better place. Great work guys!

what is it you dont agree with mate?
 
needtogetaas said:
When you think you had a thread locked just because it was talking about another product. Think again and ask a mod what happen to the thread and why.
yea bro i asked about somthing sold somewhere else and it got erazed .. then i actually went out and bought it and it was a overated and junk ..just sayin ..would have been nice to hear some good bros opinions on it .. might have saved me sum cash ..this board does have the best supps goin but debate dont hurt and can help bros
 
hurricane187 said:
yea bro i asked about somthing sold somewhere else and it got erazed .. then i actually went out and bought it and it was a overated and junk ..just sayin ..would have been nice to hear some good bros opinions on it .. might have saved me sum cash ..this board does have the best supps goin but debate dont hurt and can help bros
I bet the thread ether had a lot of fighting or a good chance is was going to. Was it made on the aas board or the sups board where all non paying products should go? There is a lot of reasons bro. :)
 
Speaking as a "member" and not so much as "higher power" I have two things to say.

One: I have to confess, I don't understand the confusion between mentioning untraceable sources and source checking. A source check suggests that mods know about them. Not cool. But speaking of labs...hey, it's a steroid board -- one of the biggest on the net. Who's kidding whom? It's not like the Feds are looking at the board and saying; "Oh, they're fine. There's no mention of sources." Come the fuck on. They know what's going on. But it's small potatoes until we give the impression there's "business" being conducted and that isn't the case. And if it's found out it is...BAN the motherfucker. Instantly!

And two: What I never liked about locking threads is it allows the assholes to win. Someone can be a dick, and before someone else has a chance to retort, the thread is closed. It reminds me of grade school when the teacher used to say ""I don't care who started it." Well, who started it is EVERYTHING. Those people should be addressed, censored, put on probation or banned. Stopping an otherwise good debate strips the site of energy. Even Big Rick was talking about letting everyone have more of a go at each other, as long as it doesn't get abusive or personal. Then THAT person will be deleted.

Does this make sense to anyone else?
 
Nelson Montana said:
And two: What I never liked about locking threads is it allows the assholes to win. Someone can be a dick, and before someone else has a chance to retort, the thread is closed. It reminds me of grade school when the teacher used to say ""I don't care who started it." Well, who started it is EVERYTHING. Those people should be addressed, censored, put on probation or banned. Stopping an otherwise good debate strips the site of energy. Even Big Rick was talking about letting everyone have more of a go at each other, as long as it doesn't get abusive or personal. Then THAT person will be deleted.

Does this make sense to anyone else?

Nelson u make perfect sense.

I dont ever recall being deleted or locked. But I guess it depends on why the thread was locked. If it was solely for fighthing, flaming, or the such by one individual, in an otherwise "great debate" thread, than I suppose it would be very frustrating.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Speaking as a "member" and not so much as "higher power" I have two things to say.

One: I have to confess, I don't understand the confusion between mentioning untraceable sources and source checking. A source check suggests that mods know about them. Not cool. But speaking of labs...hey, it's a steroid board -- one of the biggest on the net. Who's kidding whom? It's not like the Feds are looking at the board and saying; "Oh, they're fine. There's no mention of sources." Come the fuck on. They know what's going on. But it's small potatoes until we give the impression there's "business" being conducted and that isn't the case. And if it's found out it is...BAN the motherfucker. Instantly!

And two: What I never liked about locking threads is it allows the assholes to win. Someone can be a dick, and before someone else has a chance to retort, the thread is closed. It reminds me of grade school when the teacher used to say ""I don't care who started it." Well, who started it is EVERYTHING. Those people should be addressed, censored, put on probation or banned. Stopping an otherwise good debate strips the site of energy. Even Big Rick was talking about letting everyone have more of a go at each other, as long as it doesn't get abusive or personal. Then THAT person will be deleted.

Does this make sense to anyone else?



mentioning of UG labs is BRR's rule, which I agree with.

1st, during ORD, the DEA stated their intention was to shut down unsafe UG bathtub operations that endanger peoples health. why poke a finger in their eye?


2nd, this isnt a source board. many/most of the UGs also source their own product obviously. mentioning an UG is in most cases tantamount to mentioning a source.

re locking threads -- nobody is locking debate threads. threads that descend into ad hominem attacks are locked.

Attack the idea, not the individual who is presenting the idea. those threads get locked, and if the member makes it a habit of starting those personal attcks, he wont be around long.

The thing most often mentioned by returning Roid board members who had left in disgust in the past, is the new lack of Flaming. We intend to keep it that way.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Speaking as a "member" and not so much as "higher power" I have two things to say.

One: I have to confess, I don't understand the confusion between mentioning untraceable sources and source checking. A source check suggests that mods know about them. Not cool. But speaking of labs...hey, it's a steroid board -- one of the biggest on the net. Who's kidding whom? It's not like the Feds are looking at the board and saying; "Oh, they're fine. There's no mention of sources." Come the fuck on. They know what's going on. But it's small potatoes until we give the impression there's "business" being conducted and that isn't the case. And if it's found out it is...BAN the motherfucker. Instantly!

And two: What I never liked about locking threads is it allows the assholes to win. Someone can be a dick, and before someone else has a chance to retort, the thread is closed. It reminds me of grade school when the teacher used to say ""I don't care who started it." Well, who started it is EVERYTHING. Those people should be addressed, censored, put on probation or banned. Stopping an otherwise good debate strips the site of energy. Even Big Rick was talking about letting everyone have more of a go at each other, as long as it doesn't get abusive or personal. Then THAT person will be deleted.

Does this make sense to anyone else?
we take not of the people killing the threads. we also love debate and want to let things go. We know who is starting it and that person will be noted and taken care of.

We are not always just going to lock the thread and leave it at that. Some times we will lock a thread because some one made the first attack and we know its going to get ugly.

We will deal with that person who dos. It dos no good for a member to take it into his own hands and flame back and keep the fight going. So we feel no need to give the chance to do so.

Yes like you said keeping it from getting abusive or personal is our goal. If we have to ban some one that just don't get it we will. We will give warning when
we need to, ban when we need to, and cut the fight off at the roots when we need to.

When we start sending a msg we might come out with it full force at first. Once people get the point we we can step back a bit. If things get sloppy again we will just tighten up ship again.

So its up to every one here.
 
yourmomgoestocollege said:
Don't like it then you can leave. That simple. :heart: :heart:
There I changed it for you. Push it and I will help you out the door. Now go back to playing in c&c we don't need the bull crap here.
 
I think this thread has made all the points it needs to make. Things are running good and thats that. Ether conform to the rules and the way things are run or leave. We are working together nice and have been for a wile now. I will be damed if I let it fall apart.

Have a nice day enjoy the site. Nice and clean they way we like it.
 
well these e-fights are going to be kept to a minimum here. if you want flaming and drama this forum isnt the place.

you think me or any of the mods make up the rules lol. we just enforce the wishes of management.

take it up with admin or leave if you have a problem with the rules pal :rose:
 
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