to test or not to test

[gamorrah]

Hola!

Im 6,0
215
12% bf
age 36

I have done approx 6 cycles over the course of 20yrs of lifting. I have some pubertal gyno or pseudo gyno. Im terrified of it getting worse but would like to try some test. It's real cheap and wondered if I handled it correctly in terms of dose/anti -e's, I could use it safely, assuming I am gyno prone.

I have ran these in the past with little or no gyno problems.

deca (no probs)
EQ (no probs)
Sten (bloat city)

Im really looking for slow keepable gains and safety. Of course I would just run Primo/anavar all the time if $$$ was not a factor. So far my favorite is EQ.

Everyone hear just preaches the Test, and it is so cheap.

what is the safest worthwhile dose?

what is the safest type?

general recommendations for sides?

any advice would help!


thanks ahead of time, this board has been great

 

[string_bean00]

Try 400-500mg a week. Gyno from test is easily controlled.

 

[woodtick]

I might get flammed for this, but I ran test cyp and deca both at 200mg/week and got great results. I gained about 25lbs over 12 weeks and kept about 15. I got itchy nips in the third week and started armidex at .5 eod and the itchy nips went away. Everyone is different, most guys say 200mg is a waste and some like me have had good gains. I personally think start low and work up, but that is just my opinion. Why take 500mg if 200mg works for you.

The only sides I got was acne on my back and a little on my chest,but most of this came post cycle.

 

[gamorrah]

Thats around the range I was considering. what type of test is safest, or should I say which esters are the best for me?

also, would nolva be okay, or should I get some liquid femara?

 

[string_bean00]

also, would nolva be okay, or should I get some liquid femara?

If you're concerned with bloat, the femara is probably your better choice. Nolva is fine for gyno, though.

 

[idcbp]

I think you would really like running something like sustanon or ethanate at 200-400mg. weekly with arimidex or letrozole at .5 eod or whatever you felt kept you dry and gyno free. It kind of funny b/c you've used deca and I've found test induce gyno (estro) way more managable than deca (progest). Remember that anavar was meant to mimic testosterone without producing the sides. If you ran low levels of test and controlled the estro effectively you'd get very similar results though they'd be a liuttle more noticable and way cheaper. I'd give it a try bro.

 

[gamorrah]

Im going to read up on difference between types of test. I would like to keep the shots to minimum and also have a pretty easy recovery. On a 8 week cycle, would I run femara throughout or just when I notice problems?
I really dont want super noticible gains, maybe 8-15 LBM after water. The gains I received on boldenone were adequate, the recovery seemed long though?

 

[Anthony Starks]

If you have a tendency towards gyno I wouldn't risk it. There are plenty of other roids that would be a better choice for your situation. Better safe than sorry, but thats just my opinion.

 

[gamorrah]

thats been my general opinion over the years, everyone just seems so pro test. All things considered, is boldenone considered safe at (2) 10-12 week cycles per year?

 

[Boston Strangler]

if you are going to run deca and eq, you might as well run a low dose of test per week at the very least. I'd say go 400mg enanthate/week I always thought Test rounded out a cycle nicely