Alright bros if any of you care I figured out what I'm gonna do. But before I get into that let me say the hype behind TNE is the fucking truth day one and I'm in love. It hurt when I pinned but no swelling no red marks as of yet hit up delts so I used a slin pin and did half a ml on each one the pumps where outstanding and the feeling of well being from the dbol hit in like five minutes no fucking joke I've take it orally both tabs and liquid the liquid hits quick but never this quick and the tabs usually take a good 20-30 mins. Anyway so I'm just gonna drop test e all together and do ED pins for five weeks wait 3 days and start pct.