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shirlene29

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so do you tip the person at the counter for take out? (like olive garden, chillis that sorta crap)
how much to tip the valet?
how bout coat check?
and if you go to a salon/spa and the owner cuts your hair or whatever do you tip them? ( I always do just seems , odd) And how much? whats the percentage?
How much do you tip a bartender?
Anyone here ever not leave a tip if the service is really horrible? Ive only done this once.

explain/discuss
 
shirlene29 said:
so do you tip the person at the counter for take out? (like olive garden, chillis that sorta crap)
how much to tip the valet?
how bout coat check?
and if you go to a salon/spa and the owner cuts your hair or whatever do you tip them? ( I always do just seems , odd) And how much? whats the percentage?
How much do you tip a bartender?
Anyone here ever not leave a tip if the service is really horrible? Ive only done this once.

explain/discuss
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1. No I dont tip for takeout. I had to come get that shit.
2. Valet, depends on how much it costs, Usually $2-5
3. coat check $1 (cant remember the last time i used a coat check)
4. yes always tip at the salon, how do i know who the owner is? i tend to overtip/ but how much depends on the cost of your salon services. minimum $25 to the stylist.
5. bartender? min $1 per drink
6. I cant recall if i have ever not left a tip. maybe

in my eyes, its better to round up when figuring the %age to tip. I start with min 20% and go up from there depending on my satisdfaction with the service.
 
shirlene29 said:
so do you tip the person at the counter for take out? (like olive garden, chillis that sorta crap)
how much to tip the valet?
how bout coat check?
and if you go to a salon/spa and the owner cuts your hair or whatever do you tip them? ( I always do just seems , odd) And how much? whats the percentage?
How much do you tip a bartender?
Anyone here ever not leave a tip if the service is really horrible? Ive only done this once.

explain/discuss
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15% for food.

Rest $1 unless it's a hot chick and I want to impress her. Otherewise for stupid services I really don't need, $1 just to get them away is fine.

skilled type jobs like barber, usually same 15% if it's a good job.

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shirlene29 said:
so do you tip the person at the counter for take out? (like olive garden, chillis that sorta crap)
how much to tip the valet?
how bout coat check?
and if you go to a salon/spa and the owner cuts your hair or whatever do you tip them? ( I always do just seems , odd) And how much? whats the percentage?
How much do you tip a bartender?
Anyone here ever not leave a tip if the service is really horrible? Ive only done this once.

explain/discuss
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20 for the valet
20 for the host
10 for the coat check
if my turkey burger is awesome i'll call out the chef and throw him a fifty.
A night at TGIF can get expensive when you are ballin'
 
Smurfy said:
1. No I dont tip for takeout. I had to come get that shit.
2. Valet, depends on how much it costs, Usually $2-5
3. coat check $1 (cant remember the last time i used a coat check)
4. yes always tip at the salon, how do i know who the owner is? i tend to overtip/ but how much depends on the cost of your salon services. minimum $25 to the stylist.
5. bartender? min $1 per drink
6. I cant recall if i have ever not left a tip. maybe

in my eyes, its better to round up when figuring the %age to tip. I start with min 20% and go up from there depending on my satisdfaction with the service.
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sounds good to me
 
shirlene29 said:
so do you tip the person at the counter for take out? (like olive garden, chillis that sorta crap)
how much to tip the valet?
how bout coat check?
and if you go to a salon/spa and the owner cuts your hair or whatever do you tip them? ( I always do just seems , odd) And how much? whats the percentage?
How much do you tip a bartender?
Anyone here ever not leave a tip if the service is really horrible? Ive only done this once.

explain/discuss
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1) Don't tip for takeout
2) I tip the valet proportional to cost of service, like smurfy...usually around 5
3) Coat check, $1
4) I tend to tip 25% on salon services regardless of who it is
5) Depends on if I'm paying per drink (usually a dollar) or a tab at the end (usually 25%)
6)I've never not left a tip because when the service was really terrible I didn't want them thinking that maybe I forgot. So I have, on two occasions, left shitty tips.
 
good point about the not leaving a tip...
like i said, Ive ever done it once and the service was horrible from the hostesss, to the food to getting my damned check
and why is it called a check and not a bill?
 
One time, it was me and my friend and maybe one other table with people in the entire restaurant. The waiter was sitting with another employee a few tables away. We waited forever for our food, which was cold when we got it. He never once refilled our water glasses. In fact, after he brought our food, he didn't check in once because he was to engrossed in his conversation I guess. I had to walk over to where he was sitting and ask for a check. I think I actually gave him around 10%, but it was in canadian coins LOL.

The other time I had a female waitress who spent the entire time I was there flirting with a table of guys. My friend and I were seated at the same time as them, and by the time we got to give her our order, they had their food. It was completely impossible to flag her down as she was in full hair flip giggle mode. The rest of the night went similarly.
 
my worst experience is long and drawn out
but the worst part of it was another waitress actually checked on us (we had been seated for almost an hr w/ no drinks or appetizers) and she asked us if we were ready for our check.
us: umm, we havent gotten our food
her: yes you did
us: ! I can assure you we haven't, we haven't even gotten our drinks
her: The computer says you were served a half an hour ago
us: !! well that would've been lovely if it it had in fact occured


rest of the night...same thing
arguing about whether we had gotten our food or not when the table is BARE
wtf
 
I tipped $2 (10%) for takeout at Outback Steakhouse last week, which was the same I gave to our sitdown waiter a week before. He never brought the dipping sauce I asked for and didn't even bring my drink refill until I was done with dinner. By that time I didn't need it.
 
Im sure the conic question is somehow hilarious or has a slant that can be exploited
but there are no sonics here, so I have no idea how



p.s. someone explain checked baggage restrictions to me, I have only flown via military orders in the last 10 years so Im confused :worried:
are the measurements length+width+height x2? true overall or just one side of the bag ie laid flat area.... I'm over thinking this arent I
 
nefertiti said:
1) Don't tip for takeout
2) I tip the valet proportional to cost of service, like smurfy...usually around 5
3) Coat check, $1
4) I tend to tip 25% on salon services regardless of who it is
5) Depends on if I'm paying per drink (usually a dollar) or a tab at the end (usually 25%)
6)I've never not left a tip because when the service was really terrible I didn't want them thinking that maybe I forgot. So I have, on two occasions, left shitty tips.
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Same, but I usually would tip a bartender big at first so I wouldn't have to wait in the future.

I uh, don't know about hair related things.
 
shirlene29 said:
good point about the not leaving a tip...
like i said, Ive ever done it once and the service was horrible from the hostesss, to the food to getting my damned check
and why is it called a check and not a bill?
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I haven't used that "I'll only put the tip in........", line in years.
 
lol Ricco
I have a funny blue balls line story that's too long

Smurfy or Nef, ow much do you normally spend at the salon? Ive only tipped that high (higher) to one stylist but only because shes the only stylist I ever had that nailed the color/cut perfect...she vanished too....Im still sad about it
 
shirlene29 said:
lol Ricco
I have a funny blue balls line story that's too long

Smurfy or Nef, ow much do you normally spend at the salon? Ive only tipped that high (higher) to one stylist but only because shes the only stylist I ever had that nailed the color/cut perfect...she vanished too....Im still sad about it
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PM it.
 
meh, its probably only funny to me
the short
"but I'll have blue balls"
burst out laughing
" has that line ever actually worked on anyone? seriously? after you were 14??"
"seriously, blue balls is bad!"
total deadpan
"so don't show em to anyone"
"arggggggggggggghhhh"
the end
 
shirlene29 said:
meh, its probably only funny to me
the short
"but I'll have blue balls"
burst out laughing
" has that line ever actually worked on anyone? seriously? after you were 14??"
"seriously, blue balls is bad!"
total deadpan
"so don't show em to anyone"
"arggggggggggggghhhh"
the end
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Blue balls is a serious medical condition that women just don't understand. They should do whatever is neccessary to prevent it.
 
I never tip those pesky tip jars at fast food type places. What the hell is that? Everyone wants a tip.

As a society we're tipping the wrong people. The bartender who opened your beer for you doesn't need a tip for that, but the maid who cleaned your hotel room does. The guy who checks your coat is being paid to check your coat. He doesn't deserve a tip because coat checking doesn't require effort, but the guys who move your heavy furniture around do. Sure they get paid by their employers too, but they did a lot more for you than just open your can of beer.
 
I think the reaosn why people tip is so they can feel rich and proud, also because it is a social obligation we somehow invented. We're also not tipping the service, but the person. Example: The bartender. Nice person. Alwyas quick to listen to your problems. Got cigarette? Need a light? He's on it.
 
bruce9241 said:
I think the reaosn why people tip is so they can feel rich and proud, also because it is a social obligation we somehow invented. We're also not tipping the service, but the person. Example: The bartender. Nice person. Alwyas quick to listen to your problems. Got cigarette? Need a light? He's on it.
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What, you can still smoke in bars??? Funniest thing a bartender told me after the smoking ban was "now you can smell the farts", lol.

Feeling I'm a cheapskate on the valet tipping now... Do you tip on dropoff AND pickup or just pickup? I already feel a little raped at some hotels in big cities; $45/day for self-park in SFO, no idea on the valet rate, near that in some other cities for valet... Plus it's usually when I'm travelling and just a damn rental car, so I really don't care, lol.

Start at 20% on food; 25% haircut (they're cheap anyway); at least $1 per drink, even a bottle of beer, very rarely tip hotel maid, I guess because I never see her, or if I do it's because she's banging to get in the room when I'm trying to sleep...
 
The only people I ever stiff is hookers and usually its because the whore just took my last 200.00 anyways.
 
shirlene29 said:
so do you tip the person at the counter for take out? (like olive garden, chillis that sorta crap)
how much to tip the valet?
how bout coat check?
and if you go to a salon/spa and the owner cuts your hair or whatever do you tip them? ( I always do just seems , odd) And how much? whats the percentage?
How much do you tip a bartender?
Anyone here ever not leave a tip if the service is really horrible? Ive only done this once.

explain/discuss
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1) I normally do not tip take-out but there is a local Chinese place and they know me. They have given me free stuff and I don't need to explain my order when I call, they know it is me and make it just the way I like it. Normally the tab is $7 something and I give them $8

2) Coat check depends on the place. Same for the valet. Anywhere from $5 to $20

3) I get my hair done at a local barber shop and the Korean girl doesn't make much so I always tip around 80%. I get great service.

4) I have not left a tip before but I always make sure it is the waiter/waitress who is at fault, not the kitchen. If the food is messed up I notify the manager. Not tipping because the kitchen is screwed up is wrong because that is not the hostesses fault. I eat out a lot and there have been a few times when I didn't leave a tip.
 
Army Vet said:
1) I normally do not tip take-out but there is a local Chinese place and they know me. They have given me free stuff and I don't need to explain my order when I call, they know it is me and make it just the way I like it. Normally the tab is $7 something and I give them $8

2) Coat check depends on the place. Same for the valet. Anywhere from $5 to $20

3) I get my hair done at a local barber shop and the Korean girl doesn't make much so I always tip around 80%. I get great service.

4) I have not left a tip before but I always make sure it is the waiter/waitress who is at fault, not the kitchen. If the food is messed up I notify the manager. Not tipping because the kitchen is screwed up is wrong because that is not the hostesses fault. I eat out a lot and there have been a few times when I didn't leave a tip.
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Not leaving a tip is just plain wrong i dont care if it took an hour to get your food.At the very least 15% atleast you will have the otion of returning in the future a total goose is gonna get you a spit burger on next visit.
 
bruce9241 said:
I never tip those pesky tip jars at fast food type places. What the hell is that? Everyone wants a tip.

As a society we're tipping the wrong people. The bartender who opened your beer for you doesn't need a tip for that, but the maid who cleaned your hotel room does. The guy who checks your coat is being paid to check your coat. He doesn't deserve a tip because coat checking doesn't require effort, but the guys who move your heavy furniture around do. Sure they get paid by their employers too, but they did a lot more for you than just open your can of beer.
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Whether or not a tip is required hinges mostly on how the person in question is paid. A waitress or bartender may be making below minimum wage, which is allowed for staff who make a significant portion of their income from tips. In this case tipping is not a gift, it's an obligation, part of the social contract we enter into when we use their services.
 
i tip 15% - 20% at the restaurant unless the service is lacking, then it can be -15% to nothing. if i know the people or theyre cool/service is great ill go up to 25% mostly just depends on how well i think theyre doing their job. i dont tip for most other shit tho.. and if i hear the staff doesnt get their tips, i dont leave a fucking thing. no tips for take out.
 
shrimp poboy said:
Not leaving a tip is just plain wrong i dont care if it took an hour to get your food.At the very least 15% atleast you will have the otion of returning in the future a total goose is gonna get you a spit burger on next visit.
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Disagree all around there Shrimp. Sorry but if ya get the attitude then you don't get the tip. I have had wonderful servers, and shitty servers. As far as spitting on food, you would either have to ask a line cook to do it or else it probably wouldn't get done, as the space between the Kitchen and the Dining Room is quite small, for a reason, at most restaurants.

Servers look for 15 to 20%
Bartenders look for a buck (a beer or glass or shot of whatever) and hope for more.
 
shrimp poboy said:
Not leaving a tip is just plain wrong i dont care if it took an hour to get your food.At the very least 15% atleast you will have the otion of returning in the future a total goose is gonna get you a spit burger on next visit.
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I am very generous with my tips.

If I get really shitty service, for example the waitress is rude, I will not tip. I am paying to be served and if they don't want to do their job then they do not deserve a tip.

I am very perceptive when I go out to eat. My wife and I critique the service every time. If the waitress is busy and forgets something, or if they are new (and you can tell) I will give them leeway and leave at least 10% (or more).

I've even tipped waiters who have not served my food. A very flamboyant gay black man was extremely nice to my daughter the last time I went to O'Charlies. He went out of his way to say hello and even brought out some snacks for her, and he wasn't even my waiter. That is service. I even went to the corporate website and sent a message, including his name so he gets credit, and praised his service.

My wife the other day went to Wendy's and saw the maintenance man using a dolly with one wheel. He was busting his ass. After telling the manager who didn't seem concerned, she called corporate HQ and also sent in an E-mail telling them what happened. She when back to the same store to tell the maintenance man that and he thanked her.

Good workers deserve to be praised, bad workers should be fired.
 
If you think not leaving a tip is unacceptable under any circumstances, you're wrong. Lol at shrimp being the one...you shady motherfucker. This is all a matter of custom and expectation. There is no right answer, but (of course) someone who depends on tip income to survive should be tipped something unless the service is seriously lacking.

Army Vet, who is that in your avatar?
 
jackangel said:
If you think not leaving a tip is unacceptable under any circumstances, you're wrong. Lol at shrimp being the one...you shady motherfucker. This is all a matter of custom and expectation. There is no right answer, but (of course) someone who depends on tip income to survive should be tipped something unless the service is seriously lacking.

Army Vet, who is that in your avatar?
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I don't know! I wish I did. I would love to see more pictures of her.
 
jackangel said:
If you think not leaving a tip is unacceptable under any circumstances, you're wrong. Lol at shrimp being the one...you shady motherfucker. This is all a matter of custom and expectation. There is no right answer, but (of course) someone who depends on tip income to survive should be tipped something unless the service is seriously lacking.

Army Vet, who is that in your avatar?
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Actually I just did a look and I found out! I did a google search for girl in rainbow socks and this came up.

kari-sweets-rainbow-8.jpg
 
1. No tip for takeout.
2. Valet $2-5, depending on how long they kept me waiting for my car. Faster service...better tip.
3. Two bucks for coat check, a buck if I don't have a twoonie and only have a loonie in my pocket.
4. I don't tip my hairdresser on every cut because she owns the salon, and I get my hair cut every 3 weeks. But I do give her a very generous gift at Christmas.
5. A buck a drink on average, but more if I am getting fast service (and even more if I'm getting fast service from a super hot girl showing plenty of skin).
6. I have left no tip only a couple of times in my life, and it was justified...completely horrendous service...screwed up my order and because I was in a rush I had to just eat what was brought on both occasions.
 
shrimp poboy said:
Not leaving a tip is just plain wrong i dont care if it took an hour to get your food.At the very least 15% atleast you will have the otion of returning in the future a total goose is gonna get you a spit burger on next visit.
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I make allowances for kitchen backups, busy nights, all the stuff that can happen that a server can't control. If I see that the server is trying, I'll tip well. Hell, if can tell they are just having a really crappy day, I'll still tip well.

But if I am your ONLY TABLE and you ignore me all night to the point where I have to walk over to you to get my check while you chat up another server, or if I get ignored all night because you are to busy flirting with a table full of cute guys, I'm going to remind you that tipping is earned, not promised.
 
i don't tip the takeout person. or the counter person either. 2 of my kids work in food service and are surprised when they get a tip at the counter.

when i get my hair or nails done, i usually tip the person $5 for a $30-40 service.
bartender- $1 or 2.
coat check- $1
valet- $2.
 
bino said:
20 for the valet
20 for the host
10 for the coat check
if my turkey burger is awesome i'll call out the chef and throw him a fifty.
A night at TGIF can get expensive when you are ballin'
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lololol!!!!!!!
 
as a former bartender, you'd be amazed at how many shisty games there are laid out to play with customers that don't tip
 
it would seem in the U.S. that the whole tipping culture is used as an excuse for employers to pass on the responsibility of paying their employees a decent wage, onto their patrons, when one is expected or morally obliged to tip then it has already exceeded the boundaries of it’s definition
 
For really really crappy sevice I tip 10% and wirte on the bill next to cc slip 'service = bad'

I know mr manager is gonna read that at end of night. ha!:)

c
 
JayC9 said:
it would seem in the U.S. that the whole tipping culture is used as an excuse for employers to pass on the responsibility of paying their employees a decent wage, onto their patrons, when one is expected or morally obliged to tip then it has already exceeded the boundaries of it’s definition
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Jobs that tip and minimum wage jobs are not designed to support people for the rest of their lives. They are menial labor jobs that people use for part-time jobs or as a stepping stone.

I was the greasy guy who cleaned the fry vats at McDonalds at 4am in the morning when I was a kid. It sucked and minimum wage was like $3 something. I didn't get a damn tip, nor did I expect to be doing it my entire life. I worked my way up. End of story.

Just like Mr. Pink said in the Reservoir Dogs vid Smurfy posted, if they don't like the damn job, quit and find another job.
 
I dont tip... it's not required where I live, in every bill and thing you pay besides tax (13%) you get charged an automatic 10% for service which besides salary goes as an extra to the waiter, I have had horrible and I mean horrible service, I even once got a waiter asking me when I was expecting and I wasnt pregnant, I wasnt even fat I was just wearing a lose shirt... I have tipped a couple of waiters for exceptional service and ocassionally give hairdresser or other services a bit more than the price if I'm happy but tipping is not done here, what pisses me off is they get that 10% if they are good or bad..... I'm gonna have trouble when I go back to the US, but I'll just use Stilleto's chart ^_^
 
nangiggles said:
I dont tip... it's not required where I live, in every bill and thing you pay besides tax (13%) you get charged an automatic 10% for service which besides salary goes as an extra to the waiter, I have had horrible and I mean horrible service, I even once got a waiter asking me when I was expecting and I wasnt pregnant, I wasnt even fat I was just wearing a lose shirt... I have tipped a couple of waiters for exceptional service and ocassionally give hairdresser or other services a bit more than the price if I'm happy but tipping is not done here, what pisses me off is they get that 10% if they are good or bad..... I'm gonna have trouble when I go back to the US, but I'll just use Stilleto's chart ^_^
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There's a restaurant saying - he who don't tip - get spit in their food. All a waitress had to do was tell us 'non tipper ordering this food'.

YOu must enjoy eating spit.

c
 
bakemeacookie said:
There's a restaurant saying - he who don't tip - get spit in their food. All a waitress had to do was tell us 'non tipper ordering this food'.

YOu must enjoy eating spit.

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That assumes you're returning to a place you've visited, and stiffed, before.
 
Wellnot here because tiping doesnt happen, it's not something people know, the times I've done it waitress and others get confussed....
 
Tipping is BS. I'll tip for meals if the service is good but that's it. Can't imagine tipping someone for a drink or anything like that. I mean i'd be paying them extra just to get me what I'm paying for anyway. Utterly pointless. It also makes me uncomfortable when a waiter/ress is being extremely friendly obviously in the hope of getting a big tip. If it's obvious I won't feel comfortable with paying extra.

I'd offen a lot of people in America but it aint my fault if they don't pay their bar staff/waiters properly.
 
jd_uk said:
Tipping is BS. I'll tip for meals if the service is good but that's it. Can't imagine tipping someone for a drink or anything like that. I mean i'd be paying them extra just to get me what I'm paying for anyway. Utterly pointless. It also makes me uncomfortable when a waiter/ress is being extremely friendly obviously in the hope of getting a big tip. If it's obvious I won't feel comfortable with paying extra.

I'd offen a lot of people in America but it aint my fault if they don't pay their bar staff/waiters properly.
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If you're not going to play the game, you shouldn't use their services.
 
Mr. dB said:
If you're not going to play the game, you shouldn't use their services.
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The game??? Fortunately where I live (slightly less money obsessed than America), there isn't that much of a tipping game. I do 10 - 15% if the service is good when having a meal.

Feeling like you have to tip eveytime you go to the bar is just ridiculous. Seriously....paying for someone just to do what they are already getting paid for which is just to pour you a drink that YOU have already paid for!! Tipping in a restaurant if the service is bad is even more so. If they automatically add a service charge to the bill then in the past I've asked them to take it off. It's MY decision to decide whether I pay extra for their services, not theirs. Really pisses me off.

Bakemeacookie...I wouldn't go back to the sort of places where tipping is expected. That's exactly the sort of thing i'd expect from people who EXPECTED a tip regardless of their service.
 
jd_uk said:
The game??? Fortunately where I live (slightly less money obsessed than America), there isn't that much of a tipping game. I do 10 - 15% if the service is good when having a meal.
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Tipping is so prevalent in this country because we know most service people are poorly paid and rely on their tips to make a living. Perhaps it's a different situation in Britain? :whatever:
 
musclemom said:
Tipping is so prevalent in this country because we know most service people are poorly paid and rely on their tips to make a living. Perhaps it's a different situation in Britain? :whatever:
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Well if Americans business owners pay their staff less than minimum wage then yes it's different here. Paying tips for pretty much everything doesn't help the overall situation though if that is the case.
 
jd_uk said:
Well if Americans business owners pay their staff less than minimum wage then yes it's different here. Paying tips for pretty much everything doesn't help the overall situation though if that is the case.
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Minimum wage, which is currently set at $7.25/hr., is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a living wage in this country. Generally speaking, you lose 15% of that in taxes so the average person working 40 hrs. on minimum wage is bringing home about $245 a week.
 
musclemom said:
Minimum wage, which is currently set at $7.25/hr., is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a living wage in this country. Generally speaking, you lose 15% of that in taxes so the average person working 40 hrs. on minimum wage is bringing home about $245 a week.
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Not in federal income taxes, about 40% of Americans pay no federal income tax or get a "rebate" which is a welfare check.
 
I don't like tipping for stupid shit like tip jars. I do tip for a good shoe shine though. Got the greatest shine these Ferragmos have ever seen in San Francisco by this Indian Gentleman by the name of Raj. He told me he used to serve the royal family in India before he came to the United States. The man knew how to give a good shine. Never seen the leather on these shoes look so precious. Tipped the man a $20 for a $6 shine.
 
javaguru said:
Not in federal income taxes, about 40% of Americans pay no federal income tax or get a "rebate" which is a welfare check.
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Oh stop waving the fucking Republican flag, we're not talking about welfare. We're talking about people who work full time, in the "service industries" which are traditionally paid minimum wage with the expectation that income will be significantly bolstered by tips.

This is totally off track but I have always hated higher education egoism. The mentality of "oh well if you want to better your station in life then go to college and get a degree like I did." What about people who genuinely like their work, it's just paid shitty and the spoken/unspoken reality is they rely on their tips? That's the business owner taking advantage of a legal situation, not the employee playing some insidious game.

But the fact is, not everyone WANTS to be a doctor, lawyer, or corporate head. There can be real pleasure in going in, getting your job done and clocking out and leaving the job behind and experiencing the greatest satisfaction in your existance in your personal life.
 
musclemom said:
Minimum wage, which is currently set at $7.25/hr., is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a living wage in this country. Generally speaking, you lose 15% of that in taxes so the average person working 40 hrs. on minimum wage is bringing home about $245 a week.
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Minimum wage here for the over 22s is £5.80 / hour. First 5 grand of income isn't taxed, anything else 18-20% (for minimum wage folk). Working tax credit (available to virtually every minimum wage person living "alone") provides about an extra £40-70 / week, plus a number of living / tax concessions.

Suffice to say you can live in the UK on a full-time minimum wage job.

jd_uk said:
Not to ones like that. Seriosuly couldn't imagine tipping just for someone to pour a drink. Glad its never expected here anyway.
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Agreed mate. What pisses me off in city clubs etc are the blokes that expect to be tipped in the bathroom for handing you a bit of tissue paper. Oddly enough they all seem to be blaque where I live.
 
stosstruppe said:
Minimum wage here for the over 22s is £5.80 / hour. First 5 grand of income isn't taxed, anything else 18-20% (for minimum wage folk). Working tax credit (available to virtually every minimum wage person living "alone") provides about an extra £40-70 / week, plus a number of living / tax concessions.

Suffice to say you can live in the UK on a full-time minimum wage job.
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Here everything after the first $500 you make is taxed.

And don't forget, you folks have Universal Healthcare. In our country even if an employer offers insurance the employee usually needs to contribute something towards it, generally speaking about $30 and up a week.

The only type of tax credits low income individuals get usually have to do with children and child care. I don't think we have anything like that working tax credit.
 
Yip the US certainly sounds more cut throat if you're minimum wage / poverty line.

As well as free healthcare we also get free 2 year eye examinations (in Scotland) & subsidised / free dental care. Throw in heavily subsidised housing as well (council houses, which are perfectly fine if you get human beings for neighbours).

Britain might not have many positives, but it's great that people that work full-time yet make (near) minimum wage can survive, & if you co-habit with another minimum wager (girlfriend or whatever) you can both live comfortably with a little budgeting (have a car, holiday or two a year, afford to go out at the weekends etc).
 
musclemom said:
Here everything after the first $500 you make is taxed.

And don't forget, you folks have Universal Healthcare. In our country even if an employer offers insurance the employee usually needs to contribute something towards it, generally speaking about $30 and up a week.

The only type of tax credits low income individuals get usually have to do with children and child care. I don't think we have anything like that working tax credit.
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Don't get confused on what is taxed and what is deducted from your paycheck. I don't know the exact number but you don't pay taxes in the US until you get way up there (after personal deductions).

60% of the population in the USA only pays 1% of the taxes.
 
billfred said:
Don't get confused on what is taxed and what is deducted from your paycheck. I don't know the exact number but you don't pay taxes in the US until you get way up there (after personal deductions).

60% of the population in the USA only pays 1% of the taxes.
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Stross and I are talking about the stuff that gets taken out of your paycheck on a weekly basis, state and federal taxes, SSI and Medicare. Those are taxes, just like the shit they expect us to pay out in April.

I only barely touched on the yearly federal income tax by bringing up the child care credits.

I'm so sick of hearing about that 60% paying 1% it isn't even funny. What I'd like to know, and don't have the time to look up, is what that 60% has an annual income of? (sorry for the poor sentence construction, I can't think of a better way to phrase my question right now).

It's been my observation that anybody who thinks you can make a pleasant living on minimum wage in America is someone who pays it :rolleyes:
 
musclemom said:
Stross and I are talking about the stuff that gets taken out of your paycheck on a weekly basis, state and federal taxes, SSI and Medicare. Those are taxes, just like the shit they expect us to pay out in April.

I only barely touched on the yearly federal income tax by bringing up the child care credits.

I'm so sick of hearing about that 60% paying 1% it isn't even funny. What I'd like to know, and don't have the time to look up, is what that 60% has an annual income of? (sorry for the poor sentence construction, I can't think of a better way to phrase my question right now).

It's been my observation that anybody who thinks you can make a pleasant living on minimum wage in America is someone who pays it :rolleyes:
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I am not saying it is pleasant just saying they should not be complaining about taxes/ tax rates.
 
billfred said:
I am not saying it is pleasant just saying they should not be complaining about taxes/ tax rates.
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I fail to see why people who are making minimum wage shouldn't be allowed to experience a pleasant life.

I'm not talking two BMWs sitting in the driveway of a 5 br/3.5 bath house on Miami Beach. I'm talking being able to afford wholesome food, a serviceable car, clothing that doesn't come from Goodwill, a modest home in a safe community, healthcare and regular inexpensive vacations. Believe it or not, not everyone needs, or wants, expensive luxuries. But I do think people deserve to be able to expect a life that is not a nonstop panic to make ends meet, endless stress, and overwhelming debts generated by having to use credit to pay for essentials, including medical or dental care. It seems as though our culture feels somehow justified in sending the message "well, you don't work white collar/don't have a college degree, so you deserve to spend the rest of your life in hopeless, grinding drudgery."
 
stosstruppe said:
Agreed mate. What pisses me off in city clubs etc are the blokes that expect to be tipped in the bathroom for handing you a bit of tissue paper. Oddly enough they all seem to be blaque where I live.
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Jeeez...tell me about it. P*sses me off. One thing i really hate is feeling pressurised into paying to have some guy spray me with a deodrant made of cats urine in the promise that it will 'help me with the ladyzz'. It would be nice to be able to wash your hands without that.

So yeah that's bad enough but I'd struggle in America by the sounds of it.
 
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