Thoughts on cycle... Too much?

[TryinToGetBig]

Want your thoughts on two cycles. One is the one I'm starting and the other is my friends that he starts in Jan.

Mine:

Weeks 1-4 40 mg D-bol ed
Weeks 1-17 500 mg sust250
Weeks 1-8 400 mg Deca
Weeks 8-17 400 mg Eq
Weeks 19-21 clomid
Weeks 1-21 .5 mg Liquidex ed
nolvadex as needed

Pretty basic and not too long in my opinion.

Stats: Lifting for roughly 3 yrs and currently 22. 6' and weigh about 200 lbs. Body fat is pretty low because I've stepped up the cardio lately. This will be my third cycle. Priors were extremely mild before this.

Friend's

Weeks 1-4 50 mg D-bol ed
Weeks 1-17 500 mg sust250
Weeks 1-8 400mg deca
Weeks 8-16 400 mg Eq
Weeks 8-12 40 mg Methyltest
Weeks 8-12 10 mg D-bol
Weeks 1-21 .5mg liquidex
Nolvadex as needed.
Running Clen about 4 weeks after cycle.

He's 5'10" and weighs around 240. Bf probably around 15. It's his first cycle and he's really gung hoe on the orals weeks 8-12. Bad idea?

Let me know your thoughts...

 

[THEEGAME2544]

Regarding your cycle bro, doses look good, it looks sort of like bulking and cutting all in one. I would say try doing the bulking cycle first through week 8, with the sust, dbol, and deca. Then take 6-8 weeks to let your body re-coop and maintain then do the eq, sust, and maybe throw in some winny and do a cutting cycle for 10 weeks. 17 or 21 week cycle is kinda long.

 

[TryinToGetBig]

I agree, our cycles are pretty long but I tend to maintain my gains better post cycle on longer cycles. I've actually cut the cycle length down a little bit because I will still have 10 ml Eq to run. Any thoughts on the adding some more EQ into the cycle earlier, say around week 5.

Also, just in case my "boys" start to shrivel completely I'm going to grab some HCG for around week 8 or 9.

 

[bigerisbetter]

Upping the dose of the EQ to 600mg would be a good idea. Anything below produces only mild gains. Also if your trying to bulk and cut in the same cycle dont! Your body needs a break as it goes from a anabolic state to a catabolic state. give your receptors a break for about 8 wks and then hit it up.