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This kind of shit really happens?

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Unbelievable.

I mean really.

I heard about in elementary school... but never really fathomed it to be a reality... until she sat on my couch explaining her story to me, while I did everything in my might to fight the festered tears back into my eyes while she told it.

I went out with a group of people from the restaurant last night. We all got pretty shitty and then went to my house once the bars closed down.

We shot pool, smoked pot... just chilled out.

Around 3 everyone left, except this one chic that wanted to stay and make rice-a-roni with me.

And no... I'm not looking for a piece of ass at this point. While she's a big sweetheart... I think she probably weighs about 160.

She used to not weight that much. She's 19 now. When she was 16 she was 105. Skinny. The chic is pretty, I'll give it to her... if she lost some weight... she'd be good to go.

Anywho... we're sitting on my couch eating our rice-a-roni and we start talking about her weight problem.

This incident will probably make me be able to stop judging fat people for being fat. While some people are truly just undisciplined fat little piggy's...

Some, like the girl that sat on my couch last night explained that she gained weight for a reason. As a shield.

Her reason was so that her grandfather, her dad's father, would stop molesting / raping her.

Grandparent's actually do this kind of thing?!?!?!

The people that you are supposed to be able to believe in, support, and most importantly trust do this type of thing?

Her story, which happened for two years, up until 3 years ago when she told her dad what had been happening makes me wonder how many people I come in contact with that have similar stories of betrayal of trust from a family member.

My dad would be knocked dead off his ass on the spot.

The courts couldn't prosecute because of lack of physical evidence. Her grandpa continues to live a free man just four or five miles from her.

These types of stories, the ones that are always kept a secret, as he of course told her to keep it as... they make me wonder about the people that end up living a turmoiled life. The bitter old men we meet... the secrets they keep... the seriously ill old people that just can't die no matter how ill they get... living in constant pain... I hope that is a result of karma for these situations.

Situations such as these also make me want to believe that we can all rely on the white throne judgement.

First, we'd watch the life of my-coworker. We'd see firsthand what happened to her and the hands of her own grandfather. We'd feel the hate that she festers inside herself for him. We'd understand why she gained 50 pounds.

Then we would watch the old man's life.

We'd see what he did to her again, firsthand.

But before we did, we'd see what he felt, and what things in his life took place that made him decide to do what he did.

What made him end up molesting / raping his 16 year old granddaughter?

We don't know. We can only say that he is a sick old man.

But why? Where did it come from?

As I've said many times, once we understand a man we can no longer feel hatred for a being. Once we understand him, we can forgive him... no matter how terrible his act.

My fear is that he experiened a similar experience at a young age from someone he once trusted as a child.

We'd see all the hurt in this boy. No longer a perverted old man that raped his granddaughter, but a poor little boy being ravaged in his anal tube by someone he was supposed to be able to trust.

It's the hardest thing to admit as a human... but the people we hate, are simply, the people we don't understand.

I could never justify his actions. Nobody can. It's wrong as wrong can be.

But it is just my guess that there is more hurt in that old man than anyone could possibly know. While it doesn't make his actions right in any way... a viewing of his life would probably explain why he is sick.

You don't wake up one day and find your granddaughter suddenly attractive. There are roots behind the actions that we as humans can not see.

I wonder how many people reading this were abused.

I also wonder how many people on this board have abused someone.

I also wonder how many people reading this board are currently being abused, but have never said anything to anyone about it.

Unfortunately, I'm sure the answer isn't 0.

It's amazing this world.
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THAT IS DEAD RAW.

I AGREE, PEOPLE WHO ARE HAPPY DO NOT DO THESE SORTS OF THINGS - THE GRANDFATHER MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY TROUBLED MAN, PERHAPS EVEN ABUSED HIMSELF.

I AM NOT A VIOLENT MAN AS A RULE, BUT I WOULD BE TEMPTED TO DO IRRATIONAL THINGS IF SOMEONE I LOVED TOLD ME THAT SORT OF STORY.

THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS LISTEN ATTENTIVELY TO THOSE WHO DO SPEAK OUT AS VICTIMS, AND CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT SUCH THAT THOSE WHO KEEP IT AS A SECRET WILL BE ABLE TO TELL.

SOMETIMES YOU JUST WANT TO BLOW SOCIETY THE HELL UP.
 
Damn, that's messed up.

I agree with forgiveness and understanding, but how the hell do you forgive something like that? Shit, how do you even understand it?! Who knows why people like her grandpa do what they do. Maybe he was abused as a child...maybe he's just a sadistic fuck. I don't know.

Does someone who can just trun off thier morality really deserve forgiveness?

Abuse in it's many forms is quite common, sadly enough. Violence against children is so wide-spread it's basically an epidemic.

What a fucked up world.
 
Its terrible to read things like that happen. Its so sad to me that to this day, its still something families and people still don't speak out about.
It also disturbs me what people can do... murder, molestation, rape... I know its cliche, but what is this world coming to?? I know that this sort of behavior has been a part of life since the beginning, but when in the hell will it become something of the past?? So many people are becoming statistics each and every day, every one has in some shape or form been touched by a form of terrible tragedy. And there are people who cause these terrible tragedies. How does this shit happen??
Well, I have rambled enough tonite...
 
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Forgiveness? That's what keeps these assholes doing what they are doing. The old fuck can be cured with a bullet. If it really happened.
 
There's no excuse for people like that. I know many people who were sexually abused as children, and they did not grow up to become abusers themselves. Some had families and were very good parents.

That is just sick, sick, sick. I don't believe in forgiveness for that sort of thing. I believe in a bullet.
 
My cousin lives in a small town in North Georgia. You know the "Good ole' Boy Town." Well he had a daughter out of wedlock with this girl who ended up marrying a County Deputy. A few times my cousin went to pick up his daughter he noticed that there was blood in her diaper. They ended up taking the baby to the doctor and he said that the baby was being molested. Well it turns out that the Deputy is molesting the baby. My cousin was a hot head and as soon as he found out he shot the guy dead.

The thing is he was doing it to protect his daughter. However, since the accusations could not be proven because the guy was dead they could not even mention the molestation during the trial. He is now serving life in prison for 1st degree murder.

Should he have went through the proper channels to prove the molestation while his daughter stayed at the man's house everynight. Would you have?
 
I bet he still would rather be in prison with that fucker dead than sitting there knowing that his daughter was being molested. It was pretty humane of him to just shoot the guy, actually.
 
I don't think a lot of people realize how common stuff like this is. I think of the %age of my female friends who've gone through stuff like this. Most of them just don't talk about it....only sometimes and really, only then with females. The world is full of sick people. I'm normally really kind and loving but I think that people who hurt kids deserve to suffer.
 
I went to jury duty last week and one of the questions they ask you is "have you ever been the victim of a crime?

there were 4 women out of around 15 that said they were raped!

i couldn't believe how many women had been assaulted that way..
 
HOW DO WE PUT A STOP TO RAPE???

THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING WE CAN DO THAT I CAN SEE, IS TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT SUCH THAT VICTIMS ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO SPEAK OUT.

HOWEVER, IF YOU GO TOO FAR... THEN ANYONE WITH ANY OLD ACCUSATION CAN RUIN SOMEONE'S LIFE.

IT'S A HARD PROBLEM. PEOPLE SUCK!
 
you will be suprised but a lot more people you will meet have similiar stories or stories just as fucked up. most of them hide it because they are ashamed. it's truely sad.
 
While I have a forgiving heart, I can't forgive anyone that violates the trust that a child puts in them. A child that looks to you for guidence and protection, instead finds that trust and love twisted into some perverted ideals that this man has. There is no way that he can give her back what he has taken away from her. I only hope that in the end there is some kind of justice that makes him pay for what he has taken from her.:mad: :mad:
 
if he understands what he did is wrong, he is probably a tortured individual.

if he doesn't, then i question his moral kernel. he must be "insane" (incapable of distinguishing right and wrong)

there is to much hate already....

i question that what she is purporting to be her motive is true... she has probably justified it to herself in this way... i think it is more than likely that being molested led to depression and weight gain... i think she gained weight as a result of molest, but not necessarily purposefully in an attempt to thwart it....
 
Bigsatan13 said:
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Forgiveness? That's what keeps these assholes doing what they are doing. The old fuck can be cured with a bullet. If it really happened.

Bullet to the crotch, bullet to the dome. No tolerance for this garbage. Yes, it is a chain, the vast majority of molestors were molested, but that doesnt mean they become possessed and unable to control their actions, it is still a concious choice....fuck 'em.
 
:-(. This is why I do not plan on ever having any kids. My father physically abused me. I know I would end up being the same to my kids :-(. And if I didn't, someone else would do it.

20% of kids are abused (physically) by their parents. More emotionally. 12% of people are abused sexually as children, some by family, some by others. 25% of women are raped in their lifetime. How many assaulted?

Look at the statistics. Now I know some people have every shitty thing possible happen to them, but nonetheless it adds up to a large majority of folks. The happy-clappy everything's-ok-'in-the-brady-clan attitude most people display to life is just a front. There is a huge amount of pain and suffering out there. Consider the prevalence of clinical depression. EVERYONE i met when I was hospitalised had been abused or bullied or assaulted in some way that led to their illness, from constant rape to constant putdowns and threats. This is why so many people see therapists, they NEED to talk to someone about it all.

It's not just a few people, not just some folks in the newspapers, and not the exception. Violence against kids appears to be the norm when people feel they can get away with it. I don't understand it. I don't understand how my father could have been such a bastard to me. Isn't he supposed to care about me? I could understand why my teacher beat up on me, because he was a pervert who enjoyed hurting kids...

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