This is when being a public company can potentially fuck you..

[redsamurai]

Harley-Davidson dives on chopped guidance- MSN Money


I hope Harley tells it's shareholders to suck it, obviously they wont' but they should. Harley is doing a partial rebranding during a fucking recession and they should...except their shareholders don't like the lower margin bikes they're gonna be producing more of for a few years till higher end demand comes back. What's the problem with that? If i had stock in Harley I'd be happy their doing that cause it means they're properly positioning themselves in a changing market which means they're not going anywhere. Cowtowing to their shareholders at this point in time could collapse the company in a few years but do people on wall street care? No, they want theirs and they want it now.....and how another american brand goes down. And more manufacturing jobs lost.

 

[mrplunkey]

A Harley isn't a means of transportation. It is a fashion statement and a visible expression of an (alleged) lifestyle.

Shrinking gross margins in the fashion business can be disastrous.

 

[PICK3]

HD hasn't been tr00 "american brand" for > decade

 

[redsamurai]

A Harley isn't a means of transportation. It is a fashion statement and a visible expression of an (alleged) lifestyle.

Shrinking gross margins in the fashion business can be disastrous.

Incorrect market analysis. Harley's already folded up once before, they're trying to ensure it won't happen again. Don't ride do you?

 

[ledhead]

A Harley isn't a means of transportation. It is a fashion statement and a visible expression of an (alleged) lifestyle.

Shrinking gross margins in the fashion business can be disastrous.

No, Harleys are for rednecks. Mustang 5.0's are a fashion statement... and an indicator of a reckless abandon attitude.

 

[redsamurai]

No, Harleys are for rednecks. .

also not entirely accurate. That used to be the case, rednecks today cannot afford a screamin eagle harleys...that's where they make their serious money.

 

[ledhead]

also not entirely accurate. That used to be the case, rednecks today cannot afford a screamin eagle harleys...that's where they make their serious money.

Just my opinion, I am a Mustang lover......

 

[redsamurai]

Harleys are nice once you've put 5-10k into em or just get the SE customs which will run you a fair chunk. I just don't like em stock, at all. I used to work for a Harley dealership that also owned a Victory dealership down the street. They used the VIctory storage facility to winter all the Harleys so I was back and forth between the two alot. I always like the Victories better, like way better.

 

[PICK3]

I used to work for a Harley dealership

killer internship

 

[redsamurai]

killer internship

no, just worked on bikes when I was in my early 20's.