There was a trend going on last summer at my gym where all the high school kids were taking thai dbol and blowing up with about 15lbs of water. They thought they were soooo big. LoL!
Nothing bro. Chill. I, pretty sure that most of us use injects here, we are just telling what some of the trends are where we are. Fact of the matter is ... that a lot of newbies .. .not in the know .. do oral only first cycles. No one is saying that these are the way to go ... just that it happens.
In my gyms the kids are all on T-200 combined with T-400, combined with Sust, combined with ANYTHING else they can get their hands on (and they STILL usually look like dogshit )
Of course the guys I know are more like QV Test and EQ, or Karachi Sust and BD Winny