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This is a fucked up disturbing video. If you still shop at J.Crew after this...

Humans are self-reliant, self-sufficient & can (for the most part) take care of themselves. That's why humans have free will.

Again, there is a BIG difference between the humane raising of animals for slaughter for our basic survival needs --- ie food. And since the cow is already cut up for steaks, filet mignon, etc then we'll go right ahead & make us some new boots, a coat, make pet food, fertilizer, some toothbrushes, etc.....Same with pigs & sheep - they use the entire animal 'cept for the moo, squeal & Baa.

And since no one I know lives in the tunda in a tent with no heat or electricity there's no need for a fur coat with all the synthetic options available. The fur industry is simply an unnecessary industry who's sole purpose is the exploitation, mistreatment & cruel handling of animals for their skin & nothing else.

Willfull & purposeful mistreatment of animals is sick.

Oh and btw - I always kill my lobsters first before tossing them in the boiling water.
 
jenscats5 said:
Ummmm - yeah - I'm just as disgusted by the minks & the chinchillas as I am with the dogs & cats being marketed for fur. While it's part of China's culture to eat dogs & cats & wear their fur - it's illegal to export said fur into the US & sell it under fraudulent circumstances - which does happen.

While I eat meat - I don't have a problem having a problem with the fur industry while still eating meat as I see a difference between the 2. That being said - there is no reason to treat animals (regardless of their use) cruelly & inhumanely. Also - production animals such as cows are 100% used - 'cept for the moo. ALL PARTS of the cow are used to make soap, shampoos, toothbrushes, coats, steaks, etc........nothing is wasted.

The fur industry is wasteful as the animals are not used for anything else OTHER than their fur AND there are many alternatives to fur. It's simply not necessary for someone who works in middle management, say, in New Jersey to wear a fur coat for the 50 yards they walk between their SUV & their office building. Now if they lived in a ten in the middle of Siberia - then I'd say they might need a fur coat to stay warm. Plus, the animals harvested for fur are treated cruelly and inhumanely.

Being on the top of the food chain as we are - we have a responsibility to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves.


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jenscats5 said:
And since no one I know lives in the tunda in a tent with no heat or electricity there's no need for a fur coat with all the synthetic options available. The fur industry is simply an unnecessary industry who's sole purpose is the exploitation, mistreatment & cruel handling of animals for their skin & nothing else.

Willfull & purposeful mistreatment of animals is sick.

Also no need for a 30 ounce steak when you can actually live on acorns. I prefer to live on tacos.
 
jenscats5 said:
Humans are self-reliant, self-sufficient & can (for the most part) take care of themselves. That's why humans have free will.

Again, there is a BIG difference between the humane raising of animals for slaughter for our basic survival needs --- ie food. And since the cow is already cut up for steaks, filet mignon, etc then we'll go right ahead & make us some new boots, a coat, make pet food, fertilizer, some toothbrushes, etc.....Same with pigs & sheep - they use the entire animal 'cept for the moo, squeal & Baa.

And since no one I know lives in the tunda in a tent with no heat or electricity there's no need for a fur coat with all the synthetic options available. The fur industry is simply an unnecessary industry who's sole purpose is the exploitation, mistreatment & cruel handling of animals for their skin & nothing else.

Willfull & purposeful mistreatment of animals is sick.

Oh and btw - I always kill my lobsters first before tossing them in the boiling water.
the purpose of the leather industry is not to be cruel, its to make money, like any industry. there´s a demand

I have btw never seen a synthetic leather shoe that looks or feels real.

You have to distinguish between not caring about animals and being out to hurt them
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Also no need for a 30 ounce steak when you can actually live on acorns. I prefer to live on tacos.

How much protein is in acorns?? Not enough I suppose.....

What about chili dogs?
 
jenscats5 said:
Again, there is a BIG difference between the humane raising of animals for slaughter for our basic survival needs --- ie food. And since the cow is already cut up for steaks, filet mignon, etc then we'll go right ahead & make us some new boots, a coat, make pet food, fertilizer, some toothbrushes, etc.....Same with pigs & sheep - they use the entire animal 'cept for the moo, squeal & Baa.
Willfull & purposeful mistreatment of animals is sick.

Never said it wasn't sick.

Unless your meat & dairy has been certified by the Humane Treatment of Animals Organization (and there is one because I did legal work for them; They stamp the packages with a rabbit in a circle symbol), I highly doubt the animals used for meat at stores like Costco and national supermarkets were treated humanely. Are we going to boycott that as well?

Most leather goods come from China and other Asian countries (unless its high-end goods), I doubt those animals were treated humanely as well.

Next question, everyone is complaining about this . . . Do you have a solution? How many people on this thread are going to volunteer with their local Animal Rights Organization?
 
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Hiatussin said:
the purpose of the leather industry is not to be cruel, its to make money, like any industry. there´s a demand

I have btw never seen a synthetic leather shoe that looks or feels real.

You have to distinguish between not caring about animals and being out to hurt them

I wasn't referring to synthetic leather - I was talking about alternatives to fur...... You're mis-understanding what I posted..
 
Was anyone on this thread ever born in China? Lived there? Experienced the level of poverty and restriction? Alot of us will condemn the people in the video calling them ignorant, vile, or inhumane. But the truth of the matter is - no one from America would trade places with anyone in that video to save some of those animals.

We are too busy complaining about $3/gallon for gas.
 
nycgirl said:
Never said it wasn't sick.

Unless your meat & dairy has been certified by the Humane Treatment of Animals Organization (and there is one because I did legal work for them; They stamp the packages with at rabbit in a circle symbol), I highly doubt the animals used for meat at stores like Costco and national supermarkets were treated humanely. Are we going to boycott that as well?

Most leather goods come from China and other Asian countries (unless its high-end goods), I doubt those animals were treated humanely as well.

Next question, everyone is complaining about this . . . Do you have a solution? How many people on this thread are going to volunteer with their local Animal Rights Organization?

I donate regularly to the Humane Society - goods, products, money. I do what I can for the causes that mean something to me.

As for a solution.........the problem with society is bigger than one person's idelogical thoughts such as myself. The world has deteriorated into a complete lack of respect for other life - human or animal.
 
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