This is a fucked up disturbing video. If you still shop at J.Crew after this...

[chefbone]

unreal, i cant watch that crap, that shit erks me to no end, id seriously take a bat in there and break all them guys leggs,,sad

I'm with you bro.

I almost shed a tear watchin' that shit. Poor lil' puppies.
I think I'll stay away from this thread. It would be easier for me to kill a Human than an animal...(mammal). Fish don't count!

 

[mylife]

I haven't and won't watch the video because I'm pretty sensitive in regards to cats and dogs.


I don't see a problem with using any animal for food. It seems pretty disgusting to eat cat and dog but that's the culture we were raised in.

Kill for food, no problem. Use animals for laboratory testing, go right ahead. Both of those are for the betterment of humans.

But fur? Seems pretty senseless to kill to be fashionable. Then again, I have no idea where the leather I wear comes from. I do assume that it comes from cows who are killed for food also. Can't imagine they'd kill a big ol' cow then throw away all the beef.

 

[Razorguns]

lol @ the people who can't tell the difference between a lowly rat -- and a cat/dog who have been human "companions" for thousands of years in almost every culture and civilization on the planet.

Hence their connection to humans elevates them in spirituality and closeness to us. It's why harm perpetuated onto them affects us in a way that's so hard to quantify. Instinctual, bonded, connected. Nature has provided a link between man and these creatures since the dawn of time.

3 y/o girl in front of a cat, pig, monkey and sheep. Guess who she'll run and hug. It's ingrained in us from birth to appreciate them more.

Therefore cats/dog > rats, sheep, pigs.

This is not even going into the discussion of what kind of mentality a person must possess in order to inflict this pain.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Was anyone on this thread ever born in China? Lived there? Experienced the level of poverty and restriction? Alot of us will condemn the people in the video calling them ignorant, vile, or inhumane. But the truth of the matter is - no one from America would trade places with anyone in that video to save some of those animals.

We are too busy complaining about $3/gallon for gas.

Actually, China has a lot to do with $3/gallon for gas. I have employees there. Not in that in that biz though; they make software. And they do it humanely.

Is "humane" treatment of "animals" a contradiction?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

As for a solution.........the problem with society is bigger than one person's idelogical thoughts such as myself. The world has deteriorated into a complete lack of respect for other life - human or animal.

That kind of abdication of responsibility perpetutes the very things you criticize.

For what its worth, life expectancy for people is at an all time high, as is standard of living...so both quantity and quality of life have never been better.

I like tacos. I think you have to kill animals to make them. Bears, mostly. And pirates.

 

[Mr. dB]

Is "humane" treatment of "animals" a contradiction?

No. "Humane" describes the actor, not the recipient of their actions.

 

[chefbone]

That kind of abdication of responsibility perpetutes the very things you criticize.

For what its worth, life expectancy for people is at an all time high, as is standard of living...so both quantity and quality of life have never been better.

I like tacos. I think you have to kill animals to make them. Bears, mostly. And pirates.

Ahoy Matey.....So......grrrr....Ya likey me tacos do ya?

 

[Ffactor]

I think half the people on this thread are turned on by animals and given the opportunity would have sex with them.

 

[nycgirl]

Actually, China has a lot to do with $3/gallon for gas. I have employees there. Not in that in that biz though; they make software. And they do it humanely.

Is "humane" treatment of "animals" a contradiction?

Don't forget India and United States (Yes, the United States) also have a lot to do with the current price of gas.

I would love to know how many people in this thread are going to make sure (or at least make an effort) that an animal was not treated cruelly to produce ALL or a majority of the goods they consume. Will there shopping habits actually change?

 

[Mr. dB]

That could just as easily be the USA if the "business first" righties and libertarians get their way and all government restrictions on business practices are lifted. When profit is the only motive, businesses and corporations will do anything that will improve the bottom line. Ethics are a luxury they can't afford. We need regulatory agencies that are stronger than the entities they are regulating.