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Thinking about starting steroids

The routine is fine. Maybe a shade over-cooked but sound enough. Throwing gear into the mix will only make it even more tolerable. Bear in mind that he's almost certainly not training to failure.
 
Santa it sounds like you know exactly what you are doing. It is clear that you dont need advice from any of these fools. You are obviously bigger, leaner, most likely have a bigger penis, and make more money than most here.
 
axe3 said:
Santa it sounds like you know exactly what you are doing. It is clear that you dont need advice from any of these fools. You are obviously bigger, leaner, most likely have a bigger penis, and make more money than most here.

hmm do i detect a hint of sarcasm? na your probable right.
 
axe3 said:
Santa it sounds like you know exactly what you are doing. It is clear that you dont need advice from any of these fools. You are obviously bigger, leaner, most likely have a bigger penis, and make more money than most here.

There had better be some sarcasm in there. lol :p
 
Santa_Claus said:
FACT: anyone can grow muscles with enough roids and a shitty workout.

If my routine sucks so much, why have I gained so much LBM? Why am I @210lbs and have abs sticking out? Why am I bigger and more defined than most guys?

Honestly, I often see pics of the self-professed gurus here that do roids and if I did roids im 100% certain they would look like shit compared to me.

Im open to other's opinion but I know that this workout works perfectly well for me. I've tried 5x5 and tons of other "great" workout ideas and none of them worked as well as this one. I keep making mass and strength gains and im not about to change.

its called genetics you dumb fuck. and no not everyone can gain muscle with enough gear and a shitty diet. just talk to some of the hard gainers around here. just wait and see when you have been lifting longer. it comes on really easy in the begining. its not always going to be that way. the only reason why people suggested a different workout is because they are trying to help you asshat. when you are in your first year of training you don't need the best routine to grow. the guys here have been doing this a lot longer than you. you try to help someone and they turn mr. fuckin know it all. you have been working out 1 year. you have a lot to learn brother. lose the fuckin attitude.
 
if you're giving yourself a day off between each of those three days i could see your routine as being feesible. otherwise it seems pretty ridiculous, but whatever works. i mean if arnold showed up at elite and told us his routine people would say he was out of his mind, not ready for steroids, etc. etc. anyway, if you're going to do it no matter what anybody says, a good way to start off is with a small 4-6 week cycle of something like anavar, which isn't that suppressive and will give u some nice lean gains. u might also look into tbol for 4 weeks.

also, a lot of peeps like to start off with a test only cycle at 500mg per week. this most certainly will need full nolva/hcg pct tho.

right now i am in the midst of my first cycle, which is frontloading tbol at 40 mg for the first 3 weeks, 500mg per week of testosterone for 8 weeks, pct starting week 10 with nolva and hcg. i am in week 2 and have already seen ridiculous strength gains. a lot folks here told me not to do it, but i am exceedingly happy i did.
 
Santa_Claus said:
im 23, and I've been training for about 1 year right now.
Im 210lbs @ 11-12% bodyfat(visual estimation)

Im quite satisfied with my gains but I wouldn't mind a little something extra.

I never took steroids but I heard that trenbolone is a good steroid and it's quite cheap compared to others. If I recall correctly, it can be taken alone and it doesn't require the use of clomid or nolvadex.

There are a few things I am concerned about...
#1 Acne
#2 Hairloss

Will tranbolone cause any of these two? Thanks

dont know who you 'heard' from, but you're way off on almost all counts.
tren is expensive compared to most gear. tren will shut you down harder than just about anything out there, making pct (nolva/hcg/clomid) a MUST. if you are prone to acne and MPB, then you should stay away from tren
i would love to use it, but i know my skin would pay a high price so i stick to deca
 
Santa_Claus said:
FACT: anyone can grow muscles with enough roids and a shitty workout.

If my routine sucks so much, why have I gained so much LBM? Why am I @210lbs and have abs sticking out? Why am I bigger and more defined than most guys?

Honestly, I often see pics of the self-professed gurus here that do roids and if I did roids im 100% certain they would look like shit compared to me.

Im open to other's opinion but I know that this workout works perfectly well for me. I've tried 5x5 and tons of other "great" workout ideas and none of them worked as well as this one. I keep making mass and strength gains and im not about to change.

If you look that good naturally, you don't need steroids. Besides, you're already claiming your big & defined with abs sticking out.
 
hvywghtchamp said:
If you look that good naturally, you don't need steroids. Besides, you're already claiming your big & defined with abs sticking out.


Absolutely, and you know what? I've become a magnet at my gym for old fat guys and losers that think they can tell me how to train.

It's funny to see scrawny losers tell me that my shit stinks when they can't even bench two plates and look like dog shit.

I guess i've become weary of those trying to tell me how or how not to exercise.

FACT: I don't know shit about roids....true, My routine might not be perfect...true(but it works really well for me). What pisses me off, are people who don't know fucking shit about me write on this board that my routine sucks ass.

Are they god?
 
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