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Think I found the ULTIMATE Post-workout combo!

junk

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How about this for a really good postworkout recovery while on bulking cycle ?

15 Prior to Post Workout drink:
500mg Ginger (improve protein digestability)
200mg Glucorell + 1000mcg Biotin

- Worldwide Carbo Rush drink 60g Maltodextrin + 10g Glycerol
- Worldwide Pure Protein drink 42g Whey Isolate protein

70g Carbs
42g Protein
0g Fat
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450 calories

Advantages:
- Liquid drinks, absorbs immediately, easy to carry to gym and consume immediately post workout
- Maltodextrin is very high-glycemic (150gi)
- The protein is whey isolate which is rapidly absorbed
- No fat

An 75 minutes after this drink eat another meal at home.
 
I beg to differ, I have made the ultimate Post Workout Drink and have posted it before.

1/3 cup of Dextrose -- 75g of pure dextrose
+
3.5 scoops 0 Carb Strawberry or Chocolate Isopure -- 85g protein

You cannot beat this shake, and it can be used while cutting or bulking. :D :D
 
Themachine01 said:
I beg to differ, I have made the ultimate Post Workout Drink and have posted it before.

1/3 cup of Dextrose -- 75g of pure dextrose
+
3.5 scoops 0 Carb Strawberry or Chocolate Isopure -- 85g protein

You cannot beat this shake, and it can be used while cutting or bulking. :D :D
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Dextrose has a lower GI than Maltodextrin. So Malto seems better post workout.
Also where do you mix all those Dextrose and Isopure ? In the gym? I don't have a kitchen there and all this mess of using a shaker or blender there????

The Post Workout alternative I am talking about requires nothing. With the Worldwide drink bottles you JUST SIP.
 
Themachine01 said:
I beg to differ, I have made the ultimate Post Workout Drink and have posted it before.

1/3 cup of Dextrose -- 75g of pure dextrose
+
3.5 scoops 0 Carb Strawberry or Chocolate Isopure -- 85g protein

You cannot beat this shake, and it can be used while cutting or bulking. :D :D
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1/3c dex has approx 55g carbs....1g dex = 1g carbs...just weigh it out. 1/2c is about 75g carbs.

Supplement Directs labeling is wrong on their dextrose.
 
Themachine01 said:



you sure about that?
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Also, just think about it, how can something weigh 55g and have 75g carbs?

SD states that 1/3c dex weighs 80g.......it doesn't, it weighs about 55g...the 1/2c dex weighs approx 75-80g.
 
junk said:


Dextrose has a lower GI than Maltodextrin. So Malto seems better post workout.
Also where do you mix all those Dextrose and Isopure ? In the gym? I don't have a kitchen there and all this mess of using a shaker or blender there????

The Post Workout alternative I am talking about requires nothing. With the Worldwide drink bottles you JUST SIP.
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1) There is really no appreciable difference between dextrose and maltodextrin.

2) you put the powders in a sport bottle. After your workout fill the bottle with water and shake that shit for a little mini-cooldown workout.

3)Plain whey from suppdirect, dextrose from suppdirect, a little malted milk for taste. no unneeded colors or flavors, excellent nutritional value, convenient, and, most importantly, probably 1/5 the price you're paying for your WWW nutrition B.S.
 
Themachine01 said:
maybe Im missing something here but a 1/2c of oatmeal is 40g
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Oatmeal and dex don't weigh the same bro :)

Just like a half cup of styrofoam peanuts and a half cup of real peanuts don't weigh the same.
 
My meals prior and post look like this:

1 hour before workout, 100g cabs slow ones like oatmeal + water then into the micro and eat with milk. Plus slow acting protein like fish.

Post workout: 70g dextro + 50g Whey Isolate, 10g creatine, 500mg ALA(icemans)

Post wokrout meal 1 hour after the drink

120g carbs from rice or pastal.
300g meat
500mg ALA
500mg C-vitamine
 
I just drink my shake and eat a carb meal. If I can't eat much then I will just take some simple sugars like a glass of cranberry juice (probably not as good as dextose but oh well).

-sk
 
Dial_tone said:
Does dextrose disolve easily? Can you simply add it to a regular protein drink or do you need to add more fluids?
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yes as a matter of fact shake up the mixture of powders before you add the water and the whole deal dissolves better than whey alone.
 
Lumberg said:



1) There is really no appreciable difference between dextrose and maltodextrin..
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isn't dex supposed to spike insuolin, and is considered a simple sugur (they add it to Creatine drinks for this purpose)?
isn't maltodextrin supposed to be slow acting non-insulin-spiking (synthetic, from corn usually, to mimic a complex carb)?
 
geoboy said:


isn't dex supposed to spike insuolin, and is considered a simple sugur (they add it to Creatine drinks for this purpose)?
isn't maltodextrin supposed to be slow acting non-insulin-spiking (synthetic, from corn usually, to mimic a complex carb)?
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they are both high GI carbs. your body breaks down the bonds in the maltodextrin to dextrose very quickly.
 
Dial_tone said:
Has anyone used N-large as a post workout shake? It has more carbs than I want but it looks like a good choice.
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has a decent amount of fat in it...something you don't want PW.
 
Dial_tone said:
Has anyone used N-large as a post workout shake? It has more carbs than I want but it looks like a good choice.
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isn't N-large made by mass quantities (the company that used to be affiliated with this site)?

Stay away from anything made by those people, members have done lots of lab analyses on the stuff and it's not as advertised.
 
Lumberg said:



1) There is really no appreciable difference between dextrose and maltodextrin.
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I don't think that's right. I read recently that there are long-chain malto's and short-chain malto's. the short chain are basically dextrose and quick spike, the long-chain (that most think of when discussing maltodextrin) act as a complex carb and slow release. I'll see if I can find the link.
 
geoboy said:


I don't think that's right. I read recently that there are long-chain malto's and short-chain malto's. the short chain are basically dextrose and quick spike, the long-chain (that most think of when discussing maltodextrin) act as a complex carb and slow release. I'll see if I can find the link.
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PLease do.
 
Best tasing post workout combo for dieters: 1 liter vanilla coke about 100g high fructose corn syrup. 5min later 3 scoops optimum choc 100%whey 69g pro.
When you are dieting this is what you will look forward to all day long, you wont even want to take days off because then you can't have a post workout drink combo.
 
bigbabybodybuilder said:
Best tasing post workout combo for dieters: 1 liter vanilla coke about 100g high fructose corn syrup. 5min later 3 scoops optimum choc 100%whey 69g pro.
When you are dieting this is what you will look forward to all day long, you wont even want to take days off because then you can't have a post workout drink combo.
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Actually you should do the whey first then the carbs later because the carbs go into your bloodstream much quicker than the protein and they "push" the protein into your muscles.
 
Dial_tone said:
Has anyone used N-large as a post workout shake? It has more carbs than I want but it looks like a good choice.
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I bought n-large when I was bulking last fall just because it was so damn cheap, but it tasted godawful. Some guys love it, but I couldn't stand it. I mean for a drink with that many carbs and that much fat it should be delicious. It seemed to work for gaining weight though.

I just mix dextrose, maltodextrin, and CFM whey isolate into some sugar free kool-aid post workout now. No more thick shakes for me.
 
Themachine01 said:
I beg to differ, I have made the ultimate Post Workout Drink and have posted it before.

1/3 cup of Dextrose -- 75g of pure dextrose
+
3.5 scoops 0 Carb Strawberry or Chocolate Isopure -- 85g protein

You cannot beat this shake, and it can be used while cutting or bulking. :D :D
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This is decent but you dont need that much protien in one sitting bro. Overkill. Your body can only digest a certain portion of that. Might not be too bad as long as it is a mix of concentrates and fast acting isolates.
 
thate said:


Yes this and among other things, their customer service is horrible and they sell expired products.
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I never had a problem with them. Plus, dextrose doesn't expire, and as far as I know neither does WPC when stored correctly. I keep mine in a cupboard for months at a time.
 
How can you drink a shake with lots of straight dextrose in it? I have always used maltodextrin and recently tried a pw shake with 60g's of dextrose. Way too sweet, and I like sweetness.
 
for me and nlarge i use it simply 4 scoops the regular serving with 84g's of carbs 52g's of pro and what not...and down it easy....if im cutting i mix my nlarge 2 scoops to get about 40 someodd carbs and then use a scoop of optimum 22gs of pro per serve and mix em...

nlarge = $34.95 for 10lbs 30 servings.
optimum -$46.99 for 10 lbs 155 servings (22g's pro per)


thats my style,

danks.
 
Slowmo21 said:
How can you drink a shake with lots of straight dextrose in it? I have always used maltodextrin and recently tried a pw shake with 60g's of dextrose. Way too sweet, and I like sweetness.
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That's strange. Dextrose really isn't that sweet by itself as say Sucrose. 50g of Dextrose barely changes the taste of my drinks.
 
Lumberg said:
I never had a problem with them. Plus, dextrose doesn't expire, and as far as I know neither does WPC when stored correctly. I keep mine in a cupboard for months at a time.
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I never said the dextrose was expired, but their yohimbine hcl was almost a year expired and they still sold it to me. Then told me I had to pay to have it reshipped back to them if I wanted a refund. Plus they were total dicks about it. If you want to deal with a company this shady thats fine, just warning others to stay away. There are much better companies out there.
 
thate said:


I never said the dextrose was expired, but their yohimbine hcl was almost a year expired and they still sold it to me. Then told me I had to pay to have it reshipped back to them if I wanted a refund. Plus they were total dicks about it. If you want to deal with a company this shady thats fine, just warning others to stay away. There are much better companies out there.
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Well I only use them for their 11# buckets of dextrose and their 33# bags of WPC. That's about all they're good for in my opinion and I've had no problem with either of those 2 products.

Get your real supplements from netrition, vitanet, etc.
 
I didn't trudge through this entire thread but I have something for your consideration.

Most will agree that quick absorbtion is an advantage in post-workout nutrition. You would do well to consider the fact that protein stimulate within the gut the release of cholecystokinin (CCK), a chemical wich retards the rate of gastric emtying (the rate at which your stomach empties into your intestines).

This effect is most easily controled. By using carbohydrate at a rate of 4:1 in regard to protein, CCK is kept in check and nutrient absorbtion rates are kept near optimal.
 
Dextrose is sugar.

The End.

Stop treating it like it's something special.

Marshmellow FLUFF is made with dextrose. How much muscle has FLUFF put on anybody?
 
Nelson Montana said:
Dextrose is sugar.

The End.

Stop treating it like it's something special.

Marshmellow FLUFF is made with dextrose. How much muscle has FLUFF put on anybody?
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actually this is not entirely accurate.

dextrose, a monosaccharide, is pure glucose

sugar is sucrose

Sucrose is a disaccharide that yields 1 equiv of glucose and 1 equiv of fructose on acidic hydrolysis.

maltodextrin is a disaccharide that yields 2 glucose molecules

HOWEVER.. with glucorellR.. it really does not matter as much.. in fact it MAY be less useful to use dextrose in the post workout shake.. as it clears TOO rapidly.. (also if using a dextrose base post workout shake take glucorellR 10-15 minutes prior for best results.. unless actually desiring the insulin spike)


though sucrose and high Fructose corn syrup should be used in moderation as a fructose does not require insulin to be stored as FAT.
 
depending what country you live.

if the u.s, i belive you can just walk into a rite aid and ask for glucose. a 1 pound bag goes for a buck.

satchboogie
 
junk said:
15 Prior to Post Workout drink:
500mg Ginger (improve protein digestability)
200mg Glucorell + 1000mcg Biotin

- Worldwide Carbo Rush drink 60g Maltodextrin + 10g Glycerol
- Worldwide Pure Protein drink 42g Whey Isolate protein
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I would not get your protein from the worldwide pure protein drink. I've read numerous threads here on EF describing how they're made. the protein is of very poor quality by the time you consume it.
 
I'm confused about the maltodextrin vs. dextrose. I' m cutting now, and My biggest carb intake is really only in post-workout shake.. So which one would be more beneficial the quick insulin spike or the or the slow complex carb.
 
satchboogie said:
depending what country you live.

if the u.s, i belive you can just walk into a rite aid and ask for glucose. a 1 pound bag goes for a buck.

satchboogie
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I did see something in rite aid that said glucose but didnt really know what it was your saying its dextrose, Ill have to look at ingrediants, right
 
Nelson Montana said:
Dextrose is sugar.

The End.

Stop treating it like it's something special.

Marshmellow FLUFF is made with dextrose. How much muscle has FLUFF put on anybody?
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the "stay puff marshmellow man" from ghost busters was pretty jacked.....must have been a power lifter
 
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