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Thick Bars...

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I found a pic of my 2" thick bar that I often train with. A few guys have been emailing and pming me about what it looked like. Not a great pic...but a start.

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Yep...fun to do chins with...and rows...and deadlifts...and bench press...curls...cleans....

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Bump for anyone looking to improve their grip or forearms...

or...

Spatts looking for a Z Squat bar :)

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The gym I train at when I'm home has 2 or 3 thick bars. I think they have a 2" bar, a 3" bar, and a 4" bar. I'll probably use them some when I'm home over break (the whole 2 weeks I'm off from school :mad: ).
 
zackdarnell said:
The gym I train at when I'm home has 2 or 3 thick bars. I think they have a 2" bar, a 3" bar, and a 4" bar. I'll probably use them some when I'm home over break (the whole 2 weeks I'm off from school :mad: ).

A 4" bar? That would be awesome!!!!

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I'm looking for a bar that goes like this..

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I think I could do squats behind the back that way, because I could get my arm around the bar... (Can't do them because of my shoulder mobility)...

What type of bar is that?

C-ditty
 
rjl296 said:
did you make that yourself ?? how did ya do it

I bought a straight piece of Schedule 80 steel and got 2 collars from PDA equipment. Those made for good stop collars and they tightly screw down to the bar and never move.

The piece of steel was about $30 and the collars were about that also...

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Citruscide said:
I'm looking for a bar that goes like this..

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I think I could do squats behind the back that way, because I could get my arm around the bar... (Can't do them because of my shoulder mobility)...

What type of bar is that?

C-ditty
Thats a cambered bar.
 
b fold the truth said:


I bought a straight piece of Schedule 80 steel and got 2 collars from PDA equipment. Those made for good stop collars and they tightly screw down to the bar and never move.

The piece of steel was about $30 and the collars were about that also...

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How much does the bar itself weigh, B?
 
CoolColJ said:
you can wrap a towel around bar for some things to get the same effect

It is not the "same effect" at all really... A thick non-revolving bar is something completely different...

I believe that it weighs like 33 pounds or something. I always put a pair of 5.5's and a pair of 2.75's on there and call it 45 pounds.

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b fold the truth said:
I believe that it weighs like 33 pounds or something. I always put a pair of 5.5's and a pair of 2.75's on there and call it 45 pounds.

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Interesting...I figured it would weigh more than that. Is it hollow or solid?
 
Hollow...
 
b fold the truth said:


It is not the "same effect" at all really... A thick non-revolving bar is something completely different...

I believe that it weighs like 33 pounds or something. I always put a pair of 5.5's and a pair of 2.75's on there and call it 45 pounds.

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true but as far as grip and neural benefits go the same thing applies, the bigger grip diameter requirements are still met

a tightly wrapped towel will not revolve and does a nice job on working your forearns while you wrap it :)

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Training with Thick Bars

This may surprise you, but the grip diameter on dumbbells and barbells is quite important. I am a proponent of using extra-thick dumbbells and barbells. At my training facility we have extra-thick dumbbells handles ranging from 10 pounds to 195 pounds and going up in 2 -pound increments. My colleagues Chad Ikea and Fletcher Brooks also have thick grips dumbbells as a tool to building forearms and grip strength rapidly.

The idea of using thick handles is not entirely new. Alan Calvert, one of the fathers of weight training, recommended it in 1924 in his book Super-Strength. I advocate the use of thick handles for the following reasons:

Use of thick handles increases motor unit activation. Although this needs to be investigated more rigorously, my colleague Jerry Telle has shown electrical activity in movements using thick handles to be higher than in movements using standard dumbbells. The more motor units you recruit and the higher their firing rate, the faster you gain strength. One of the factors that might well account for enhanced recruitment with thick handles is fear. When performing a bench press with a 3-inch diameter bar, for example, fear of dropping the bar tends to concentrate the mind. As my health consultant friend Howie Young puts it, you can't do any reps on "mental auto-pilot" when you are using thick handles. Everybody I know who trains with thick handles has found that they can handle 10-12% more weight when they go back to using standard handles. I have asked some chiropractors and neurologists what specific mechanism is responsible for this strength increase. The best explanation I have heard is that working with thick handles and then returning to standard handles may suppress an inhibitory reflex that would normally kick in when using standard handles.

Use of thick handles builds functional strength. In real life, when you push or pull something, what you are gripping usually has a diameter larger than 1 inches, the standard grip diameter for dumbbells. In strongman competition, grip strength is often the limiting factor in performance. In judo, many fighters fail to take control of their opponents in the standing position because they cannot effectively retain their grip.

Use of thick handles takes care of your grip and forearm work. Everyone I have put on thick-handle training has experienced increases in grip strength and forearm development. The larger diameter is more challenging to the fingers, thumb, wrist, and forearms. You will find, for example, that the muscles that adduct the thumbs will become quite sore when you start using thick handles. Increased grip strength will enable you forgo the use of straps for chins and rows. The strength that you develop from these exercises will therefore be more functional. Vic Boff and his colleagues from the Oldtime Barbell and Strongmen group have said repeatedly that one of the major differences between the "oldtimers" and folks today is grip strength.
I highly recommend thick dumbbells and barbells for all upper-body exercises and even for deadlifts. For thick-bar pressing movements (seated press, incline press, bench press, etc.), I advise you to do the exercises in a power rack with safety pins, as you may drop the bar at first. If you have never used thick handles, you can rest assured that you will experience increases in strength and mass.

Thick dumbbells and barbells are available from various sources. For gym owners, commercial-type thick dumbbells are available from Grace Fitness 800 842-6637. You can specify the grip diameter, and you can order dumbbells that go up in increments of 2.5 pounds. Grace Fitness offers thick bars (2- or 3-inch diameter) that hold Olympic Plates. The advantage of the Grace Fitness thick bars is they revolve like any other great quality bar.

--Charles Poliquin
 
how long is it? I have a 6 foot bar, and when people always talk about pinkies on the rings being a wide grip, it seems fairly narrow to me, it could be because my bar is 6 ft and other people's bars are 7 ft
 
My bar is at least 7'...

Take the measurements of a regular bar and go from there...

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Thaibox said:
b, what's the capacity of that bar? If its hollow, how thick are the walls?

skaman607: I used athletic tape for rings...just like a regular bar.

Thaibox: I have easily pulled 551 with that bar. It does NOT bend at all. It is Schedule 80 pipe (that is a thickness) which is fairly thick for pipe.

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skaman607 said:
actually i was wondering how far apart the rings are

I built it just like a regular bar...

It was nothing but a piece of pipe to begin with...
 
well I was wondering, because since my bar is shorter then pinkies on the rings would be narrower than on a bigger bar, so I was wondering if I needed to change my grip, by the way the rings are 30 inches, or 76.2 centimeters apart thanks
 
skaman607 said:
well I was wondering, because since my bar is shorter then pinkies on the rings would be narrower than on a bigger bar, so I was wondering if I needed to change my grip, by the way the rings are 30 inches, or 76.2 centimeters apart thanks
Just go with whatever feels right to you.
 
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