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There's No Such Thing As "Bridging."

I'm with NM here. You're either on or off steroids, no such thing as a bridge. Too many guys use a bridge as an excuse to stay on for years at a time, putting their health on the line in the process.
 
I love how the bridging theory with AM dbol goes that you can "hide" dbol in a natural test spike.

Also...there was this guy "Nandi" who I worked with quite a bit (was a mod with him on 2 different sites and he offered me modship on a third he was involved with)....he HATED the AM Dbol theory and thought it to have been devised by people who knew very little...about anything....on a site that he typically reminded me to be a waste of time.
 
I believe cycling to be counterproductive. As I've stated, the only way you are going to maintain a hormonally enhanced physique is to be hormonally enhanced. You take the support away and its gone, plain physiology. I am a firm believer in blasting and cruising if you want to maintain a freak like look for lack thereof of a better word. There is no sense in going on then going off, going on then going off, ad nauseum. If you're going to choose this lifestyle then staying on is where it is at. Did I say it was healthy, no, but to attain a competitive physique for most this is the only way. This is another reason I tell people not to use steroids unless they are totally committed and especially if they are young (early twenties). Some or many may not agree with me but then I don't agree with 90% of you on any of these boards. Rarely do I come across a post or thread where I'm like "Yea, finally a guy who gets it and knows what the game is about." So respond on "experts". Especially you Anthony Roberts.
 
Sam5 said:
I believe cycling to be counterproductive. As I've stated, the only way you are going to maintain a hormonally enhanced physique is to be hormonally enhanced. You take the support away and its gone, plain physiology. I am a firm believer in blasting and cruising if you want to maintain a freak like look for lack thereof of a better word. There is no sense in going on then going off, going on then going off, ad nauseum. If you're going to choose this lifestyle then staying on is where it is at. Did I say it was healthy, no, but to attain a competitive physique for most this is the only way. This is another reason I tell people not to use steroids unless they are totally committed and especially if they are young (early twenties). Some or many may not agree with me but then I don't agree with 90% of you on any of these boards. Rarely do I come across a post or thread where I'm like "Yea, finally a guy who gets it and knows what the game is about." So respond on "experts". Especially you Anthony Roberts.

The attack on me is unnecessary. I don't think that bridging will produce an IFBB pro or Professional Powerlifter. To do that, you need to stay on all the time. But the average person here...is average. That's just a fact. We're not professional athletes or even bodybuilders...

See the hump in the middle of the "bell curve"?

That's most of EliteFitness. Deal with it. We're not professional athletes, and what they do isn't applicable to us, for the most part. If we do what they do and aren't at their level, then we need to realize that the health trade-off isn't worth it.
 
Nelson Montana said:
You can no easier recover through bridging than you can stop a leak in a boat by putting another hole in it to let the water out.

Deal with it.

Great analogy by the way!!! I like it :)
 
Anthony Roberts said:
I love how the bridging theory with AM dbol goes that you can "hide" dbol in a natural test spike.

Also...there was this guy "Nandi" who I worked with quite a bit (was a mod with him on 2 different sites and he offered me modship on a third he was involved with)....he HATED the AM Dbol theory and thought it to have been devised by people who knew very little...about anything....on a site that he typically reminded me to be a waste of time.

This entire thread is a waste of time. It's just a post of someone's opinion on something, nothing more.
 
I don't believe I've ever heard "bridging" and "full recovery" used in the same sentence!! the bridging theory is not based on full recovery!! anyone stating that it is needs to go back and take a second look!! it's based on running high doses for a period and then running a lowered dose to let your receptors recover (to a degree) no knowledgable user that I have ever spoken to about bridging has ever said anything about FULL recovery... so yes to the novice users here... BRIDGING DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE OFF... however it does mean that after doing time on a lowered dose a higher dose will be more effective than maintaining a high dose full through!! if you are an alcoholic... ie consuming a fifth (or close to it) in a sitting a few times a week, your body will become more tolerable to alcohol... however if your reduce this amount to a few beers a week for some time... tolerance will not be sustained!! plain and simple!! I chose to use alcohol as a reference as many people here will be able to apply their own experience to this theory!!

and yes running these cycles (staying on for extensive periods of time) will shut you down and completely F' your HPTA recovery if and when you decide to come off!!


~Papa Lion~
 
thats what i was thinking.. who ever said you recover while on a "bridge" its just allowing your body a break from heavy dosages to somewhat clear your receptors to respond once you hop back on cycle..if your going to cycle on and off for 6-10 years.. i dont see a point in trying to recover every 4-5 months.. hasnt it been proven you can recover fully after say a 3 year cycle..

basically your on HRT until you cycle on.. people on HRT still cycle and grow..

im young and ignorant though so ignore me haha
 
Sam5 said:
As I've stated, the only way you are going to maintain a hormonally enhanced physique is to be hormonally enhanced. You take the support away and its gone, plain physiology.
word. i always cringe when i read something about "keepable" gains. The only thing you keep is the hole in your bank account for buying all that gear you waste on a single cycle

Sam5 said:
There is no sense in going on then going off, going on then going off, ad nauseum.
maybe if you want to look good for one summer month and then keep away from the gym for the rest of the year

Sam5 said:
This is another reason I tell people not to use steroids unless they are totally committed
or can live with the fact than when they quit [using steroids] they will look as if the never have used.
 
I respect the opinion of everyone that's posted in here. For the most part, I read as much as I can, do the best I can to understand it, and then do what makes the most sense to me.

We really don't have any hard data that proves much of anything in this game, it's all studies that were used for a different situation, or feedback and ideas from smarter people who have been around.

I agree that you are either on or off, no inbetween.

However, the only way to get good data would be to gather a large enough test group of healthy adult males within a certain age range. Have all of them cycle test e at 500mgs per week for 12 weeks. Then, have some use PCT, some quit cold turkey, some taper, some use dbol, some bridge, etc. Do blood work before, during, and after on all subjects and see the real results.

It would be interesting to see I think, and it would actually give some good reference points. Kinda off topic, but kinda where the thread is headed.

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