The way Ali moved around in a ring

[Robert Jan]

You couldn't beat me with a knife. What makes you think you could be one of them? LOL

Don't *assume* I'm a layman with a knife. I train an hour 5 times a week in swordery.

 

[The Heretic]

And never assume you can beat anybody with anything.


(Other than a pedestrian with a car) lol

 

[Sassy69]

What's a swordery?

 

[Robert Jan]

Im actually not sure its an english word

how bout swordsmanship?
swordfighting?

 

[The Heretic]

Swordery is a word. I knew what you meant.

 

[geoboy]

I disagree. I watched several of his fights. Tyson would have knocked his ass out IMO as I don't know it all like yourself. .

whats your problem? sorry to so threaten you with an opinion that doesnt agree with yours.

its possible to disagree without being disagreeable.

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[biteme]

Dude, you obviously know nothing about boxing. Who did Tyson beat to be a top 10 all time fighter? He badly lost his legacy fights to Holyfield and Lewis. He was upset by Douglas, and recently by Danny Williams. Tyson was a front runner, who slowed down considerable after round five. I have seen all of Tyson's fights. His best wins were vs a scared to death OLD Spinks, a durable and game Ruddock(Who went to decision), Berbick (Who went to decision), and an OLD Larry Holmes.

Tyson is just outside of my top ten, mostly because he was so strong, quick, aggressive and explosive. He could steam roll many of histories greats. No one could blow out a class B fighter like a Prime Tyson could. But in the end, who did Tyson beat to be ranked in the all time top ten?

And to actually say that Ali had no power?? WTF!?!?! He Ko'd 37 of his 61 opponents. He lost 4 times. Once to Joe Frazier ( arguably one of the top 10 best fighters ever) after a 4 yr layoff and the fight went 15 rounds. Frazier was beaten to a pulp, as was Ali, and Ali went on to beat Frazier TWICE, one by KO. Once to Ken Norton, who broke his jaw in the second round and Ali finished the fucking fight! He later went on to beat Norton TWICE! Once by Leon Spinks in 1978, Ali had been fighting professionally for 18 fucking years and some say he was already suffering from Parkinsons. Spinks was like 21 yrs old. Ali beat Spinks 7 months later. 2 years later Ali tried to make a comeback by fighting, again, one of the top 10 best heavyweights ever, Larry Holmes, and was beaten. He was CLEARLY suffering form Parkinson's at this point and time and still went 11 rounds with Holmes.

To even compare Tyson to Ali is ludicrous. I think he has done enough to make it into the top 15, but not being able to win your defining fights (Lennox, Holyfield etc)? I don't think anybody on my top 10 didn't win most of his defining fights.

He lost again to Trevor Berbick. Get your facts straight. Your the one that doesn't know shit about boxing.

 

[biteme]

whats your problem? sorry to so threaten you with an opinion that doesnt agree with yours.

its possible to disagree without being disagreeable.

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The problem is, I don't like it when people present their subjective opinions as if they are certain facts. If I offended you, post it on my, "Have I ever offended any of you" thread.

 

[chyllaxyn]

To even compare Tyson to Ali is ludicrous. I think he has done enough to make it into the top 15, but not being able to win your defining fights (Lennox, Holyfield etc)? I don't think anybody on my top 10 didn't win most of his defining fights.

I couldn’t have said it Better bro,

There is no weight like the heavy weight and
Ali is the "Greatest of All Time"
He beat Frazier and Foreman either of which could have made Tyson cry.

Ali reigned over Boxing's Greatest era, and I've often wondered.
Was it boxing or was it Ali ?


…and I had such high hopes for Klitschko

 

[biteme]

I couldn’t have said it Better bro,

There is no weight like the heavy weight and
Ali is the "Greatest of All Time"
He beat Frazier and Foreman either of which could have made Tyson cry.

Ali reigned over Boxing's Greatest era, and I've often wondered.
Was it boxing or was it Ali ?


…and I had such high hopes for Klitschko

My subjective opinion. You are full of shit.