The Waxy Maize Starch Thread

[slamminshaun]

hows that SUPERPUMP 250 treating you?

It's ok. I have a high tolerance for stimulants, so it doesn't do for me what it does for alot of people. I've also tried N0-Xplode and Amp02 with the same results. Just minor pumps and some increased stamina. Ephedra is the only thing that makes me blast off, but I hate working with weights while on that stuff.

 

[goin on 4T]

Thanks for posting this the other day. I am almost done with my True Protein WMS custom-mix and liked the reviews I read on Karbolyn after seeing your post.

In fact, Professional Supplements has a new "during workout" mix that just came out called Hyperbolic 10. Looks like a combination of Xtend, Kre-Alkalyn, Karbolyn and some other popular products.

So, I went ahead and ordered both products and should have them next week. Using SuperPump250 for pre-workout, will be using Hyperbolic 10 during workout, and Karbolyn for post-workout. I'll be curious to see how these products work together and I'll let everyone know. The only thing I'm planning to add to the Karbolyn is Kre-Alkalyn and BCAA's for post-workout.

The True Protein custom mix was pretty good, but I'm always searching for better....

Cool I will be looking out to hear your review!!!
I took some karbolyn preworkout yesturday and got good energy during WO! I will ask my guy about the other two for pre and during WO.

 

[SouthernLord]

Keep us posted on that Karbolyn

 

[desmond]

What do people think about mixing sodium with the WMS?

Here are some links recommending it for the malto/glucose PWO option, but the reasoning (if correct) largely applies to WMS too

AbcBodybuilding
Sodium

I realise people with high blood pressure probably shouldn't do this, so my target audience is everyone else.

 

[C Manson]

Will wms lose its potency if i mix it up before working out then drink upon finishing or does it have to drank when mixed?

 

[SouthernLord]

Will wms lose its potency if i mix it up before working out then drink upon finishing or does it have to drank when mixed?

You should be fine bro. I mix up a shake and keep it in a cooler for PWO.

 

[SouthernLord]

What do people think about mixing sodium with the WMS?

Here are some links recommending it for the malto/glucose PWO option, but the reasoning (if correct) largely applies to WMS too

AbcBodybuilding
Sodium

I realise people with high blood pressure probably shouldn't do this, so my target audience is everyone else.

I add a pinch of sea salt to my pre and post work out shakes. Along with 30ml of Glycerol to my pre and 15ml of Glycerol to my post workout shake. The combo of the WMS, Glycerol, and sea salt cause super hydration and I fill up like crazy. Especially since I am low carb. You should look into Glycerol supplementation. It is super cheap and underrated.

 

[SouthernLord]

If anyone is interested..... I have a really good study that was done on the ergogenic effects of glycerol and hyper-hydration. I would be more than happy to email anyone if they want it. PM me if so.

 

[DBee]

OATS > WMS
WMS = empty calories as opposed to OATS which are nutrient dense.

 

[desmond]

OATS > WMS
WMS = empty calories as opposed to OATS which are nutrient dense.

For whole food, butternut squash or russet potatoes >>>>> oats

Both have no fat; oats 8-10%.

Both are high GI.

BOth are more nutritious than oats. Russet potaotes have amongst the best ORAC antioxidant score of any food (Oxygen radical absorbance capacity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

Butternutsquash is perhaps the most nutrient dense starch. Both are good sources of potatssium, >>> banana.

Comparing Butternutsquash to oats, Squash has more of every vitamin, and most nutrients, except manganese, phosphorous (both normally consumed in excess) and zinc.

See below for a 300 cal serve of oats, butternut winter squash, potato, and banana.


BUTTERNUT WINTER SQUASH [/B](TASTES AWESOME ROASTED when it caramelizes)




General (17%)
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Energy | 297.0 kcal 13%
Protein | 6.6 g 3%
Carbs | 77.2 g 35%
Fiber | 13.2 g 35%
Fat | 0.7 g 1%
Water | 570.3 g 15%

Vitamins (47%)
===========================================
Vitamin A | 70158.0 IU 2339%
Folate | 178.2 µg 45%
B1 (Thiamine) | 0.7 mg 55%
B2 (Riboflavin) | 0.1 mg 10%
B3 (Niacin) | 7.9 mg 49%
B5 (Pantothenic Acid)| 2.6 mg 53%
B6 (Pyridoxine) | 1.0 mg 78%
B12 (Cyanocobalamin) | 0.0 µg 0%
Vitamin C | 138.6 mg 154%
Vitamin D | 0.0 IU 0%
Vitamin E | 9.5 mg 63%
Vitamin K | 7.3 µg 6%

Minerals (35%)
===========================================
Calcium | 316.8 mg 32%
Copper | 0.5 mg 53%
Iron | 4.6 mg 58%
Magnesium | 224.4 mg 56%
Manganese | 1.3 mg 58%
Phosphorus | 217.8 mg 31%
Potassium | 2323.2 mg 49%
Selenium | 3.3 µg 6%
Sodium | 26.4 mg 2%
Zinc | 1.0 mg 9%

Lipids (1%)
===========================================
Saturated | 0.1 g 1%
Omega-3 | 0.2 g 2%
Omega-6 | 0.1 g 1%
Cholesterol | 0.0 mg 0%

WHITE POTATO:


General (14%)
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Energy | 296.7 kcal 13%
Protein | 7.2 g 4%
Carbs | 67.6 g 30%
Fiber | 10.3 g 27%
Fat | 0.4 g 0%
Water | 350.8 g 9%

Vitamins (23%)
===========================================
Vitamin A | 34.4 IU 1%
Folate | 77.4 µg 19%
B1 (Thiamine) | 0.3 mg 25%
B2 (Riboflavin) | 0.1 mg 11%
B3 (Niacin) | 4.6 mg 29%
B5 (Pantothenic Acid)| 1.2 mg 24%
B6 (Pyridoxine) | 0.9 mg 67%
B12 (Cyanocobalamin) | 0.0 µg 0%
Vitamin C | 84.7 mg 94%
Vitamin D | 0.0 IU 0%
Vitamin E | 0.0 mg 0%
Vitamin K | 6.9 µg 6%

Minerals (23%)
===========================================
Calcium | 38.7 mg 4%
Copper | 0.5 mg 55%
Iron | 2.2 mg 28%
Magnesium | 90.3 mg 23%
Manganese | 0.6 mg 27%
Phosphorus | 266.6 mg 38%
Potassium | 1750.1 mg 37%
Selenium | 1.3 µg 2%
Sodium | 25.8 mg 2%
Zinc | 1.2 mg 11%

Lipids (1%)
===========================================
Saturated | 0.1 g 1%
Omega-3 | 0.0 g 0%
Omega-6 | 0.1 g 1%
Cholesterol | 0.0 mg 0%

OATS:


General (12%)
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Energy | 299.5 kcal 13%
Protein | 13.0 g 7%
Carbs | 51.0 g 23%
Fiber | 8.2 g 21%
Fat | 5.3 g 6%
Water | 6.3 g 0%

Vitamins (8%)
===========================================
Vitamin A | 0.0 IU 0%
Folate | 43.1 µg 11%
B1 (Thiamine) | 0.6 mg 49%
B2 (Riboflavin) | 0.1 mg 8%
B3 (Niacin) | 0.7 mg 5%
B5 (Pantothenic Acid)| 1.0 mg 21%
B6 (Pyridoxine) | 0.1 mg 7%
B12 (Cyanocobalamin) | 0.0 µg 0%
Vitamin C | 0.0 mg 0%
Vitamin D | 0.0 IU 0%
Vitamin E | 0.0 mg 0%
Vitamin K | 0.0 µg 0%

Minerals (33%)
===========================================
Calcium | 41.6 mg 4%
Copper | 0.5 mg 54%
Iron | 3.6 mg 45%
Magnesium | 136.3 mg 34%
Manganese | 3.8 mg 165%
Phosphorus | 402.7 mg 58%
Potassium | 330.3 mg 7%
Selenium | 0.0 µg 0% {note: I think this is a mistake of this database]
Sodium | 1.5 mg 0%
Zinc | 3.1 mg 28%

Lipids (6%)
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Saturated | 0.9 g 5%
Omega-3 | 0.1 g 1%
Omega-6 | 1.9 g 19%
Cholesterol | 0.0 mg 0%

BANANA


General (13%)
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Energy | 293.7 kcal 13%
Protein | 3.6 g 2%
Carbs | 75.4 g 34%
Fiber | 8.6 g 23%
Fat | 1.1 g 1%
Water | 247.2 g 7%

Vitamins (18%)
===========================================
Vitamin A | 211.2 IU 7%
Folate | 66.0 µg 16%
B1 (Thiamine) | 0.1 mg 9%
B2 (Riboflavin) | 0.2 mg 19%
B3 (Niacin) | 2.2 mg 14%
B5 (Pantothenic Acid)| 1.1 mg 22%
B6 (Pyridoxine) | 1.2 mg 93%
B12 (Cyanocobalamin) | 0.0 µg 0%
Vitamin C | 28.7 mg 32%
Vitamin D | 0.0 IU 0%
Vitamin E | 0.3 mg 2%
Vitamin K | 1.6 µg 1%

Minerals (15%)
===========================================
Calcium | 16.5 mg 2%
Copper | 0.3 mg 29%
Iron | 0.9 mg 11%
Magnesium | 89.1 mg 22%
Manganese | 0.9 mg 39%
Phosphorus | 72.6 mg 10%
Potassium | 1181.4 mg 25%
Selenium | 3.3 µg 6%
Sodium | 3.3 mg 0%
Zinc | 0.5 mg 4%

Lipids (1%)
===========================================
Saturated | 0.4 g 2%
Omega-3 | 0.1 g 1%
Omega-6 | 0.2 g 2%
Cholesterol | 0.0 mg 0%