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The Waxy Maize Starch Thread

Whilst the thread is bumped this is my question:

I'm not carbphobic or sensitive.

If I consume whey + milk + oats immediately before working out, and they whey + oats PWO, am I really going to be worse off than someone using WMS? I mean I will be getting glycogen replenishment throughout the entire workout.

Frankly, in terms of recovery I'm not noticing any benefit to WMS. It's not worse, its just unless there is a clear benefit, butternut squash/sweet potatoes >>>> nutrition/health WMS
 
Was gonna start a new thread, but Since it is Waxy related, I'll bump it in here...

Do you bros use waxy PWO for weight training days only, or on Cardio days also?? I just started using Waxy yesterday..mixing with BCAA and Glutamine per Just add Muscles recommendation.

For pre workout I was just taking Amp02, water and an apple.... this month I'm trying Assault as my preworkout...I'll let you bros how I think it compares to AMP02....I LOVE ampO2..
 
Was gonna start a new thread, but Since it is Waxy related, I'll bump it in here...

Do you bros use waxy PWO for weight training days only, or on Cardio days also?? I just started using Waxy yesterday..mixing with BCAA and Glutamine per Just add Muscles recommendation.

For pre workout I was just taking Amp02, water and an apple.... this month I'm trying Assault as my preworkout...I'll let you bros how I think it compares to AMP02....I LOVE ampO2..

There is no reason why you can't use it for post cardio, althouhg not LISS cardio.

However, the question is does it have any advantages for this purpose? U don't really need the insulin spike for muscle growth, and any carb has sufficient insulin spike to suppress cortisol
 
Whilst the thread is bumped this is my question:

I'm not carbphobic or sensitive.

If I consume whey + milk + oats immediately before working out, and they whey + oats PWO, am I really going to be worse off than someone using WMS? I mean I will be getting glycogen replenishment throughout the entire workout.

Frankly, in terms of recovery I'm not noticing any benefit to WMS. It's not worse, its just unless there is a clear benefit, butternut squash/sweet potatoes >>>> nutrition/health WMS

Hey Des,

I would say WM+ oats pwo would not be nearly as effective as WM in producting an insuline spike, as the oats is low GI.

Im a big fan of WM by the way. I always used to hate using dextrose before the introduction of WM
 
Was gonna start a new thread, but Since it is Waxy related, I'll bump it in here...

Do you bros use waxy PWO for weight training days only, or on Cardio days also?? I just started using Waxy yesterday..mixing with BCAA and Glutamine per Just add Muscles recommendation.

For pre workout I was just taking Amp02, water and an apple.... this month I'm trying Assault as my preworkout...I'll let you bros how I think it compares to AMP02....I LOVE ampO2..

I would say no for you on the post cardio WM. You're cutting and wanting to cut carbs wherever possible. After cardio, especially steady state cardio, your muscles aren't screaming for replenishment like after you beat the shit out of them weight training. Now if your cardio is ball busting all out sprints up a steep hill, then yes.

Make sense?
 
Hey Des,

I would say WM+ oats pwo would not be nearly as effective as WM in producting an insuline spike, as the oats is low GI.

Im a big fan of WM by the way. I always used to hate using dextrose before the introduction of WM

what about something like white potato then? (and the GI of quick oats is actually on the high scale of medium and there other breakfast cereals that are higher)
 
yeah, I use powdered oats which are considerably higher GI than normal ones.

Howver its my understanding that WM is stellar in terms of an insulin response - nothing else compares. PWO I see insulin manipulation as being my biggest win of the day in terms of hypertrophy.

Plus its out of the belly within 20 mins, and non filling - I like to eat a complex carbs+meat protein meal 30 mins after my PWO shake, with WM im not full at this point.

Personally I cant see any reason not to use it, unless on a keto diet.
 
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