The USA Needs a Good War!

[minion]

the most dangerous man on the planet.......lol well maybe if you wish but created and equiped by you. Smart move right ?

Read the history of Iraq, the U.S. did not put Saddam into power. In essence his regime took over the regime that we help support take over the at the time another fanatical regime. This is not a new concept and ALL countries are guilty of this type of "hands on politics" in some segment of their timeline. Furthermore Quwait pleeded for help while the U.N. turned their head.

Neither was OSBL the head of the Taliban and Al-Quida, he's more of a figurehead or spokesman a financier. The mission in Afganistan was NOT to bring back OSBL's head on a spear. I'm sure some on the presidents staff disagreed with that diction. Regaurdless the skirmish in Afganistan was a success, the mission was accomplished.

 

[minion]

(let's face it, Bush is gonna attack Iraq to take attention away from his screwup in catching Bin Laden

The American puplic has known about OSBL since the "Iran Contra" affair it wasn't just Bush Sr. and Jr. who dropped the ball on that one.

 

[2Thick]

The American puplic has known about OSBL since the "Iran Contra" affair it wasn't just Bush Sr. and Jr. who dropped the ball on that one.

That is false. Oliver North did not mention OBL during the Iran/Contra affair. It is an unsubstantiated rumor.

 

[minion]

That is false. Oliver North did not mention OBL during the Iran/Contra affair. It is an unsubstantiated rumor.

Ok since before Granted,

"The truth of the matter is that it wasn't Osma bin Laden that Oliver North named during the 1987 hearings. bin Laden had not yet developed his real hatred for America yet and in fact, was a friend of the U.S. when Afghanistan was fighting the Soviets."

However Bush Sr. and Jr. are no more responsible that Bill Clinton and his camp.

"From 1993 World Trade Center bombing in New York, the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa, and is apparently linked to the attack of the destroyer USS Cole in Aden, Yemen, in 2000 and the September 11th, 2001 events in New York City and Washington,DC."

I'm not one to pint a finger of indignation all I know is there's work to be done.

My point is still valid. More leaders were responsible than you gave credit for.

 

[Edu]

Read the history of Iraq, the U.S. did not put Saddam into power. In essence his regime took over the regime that we help support take over the at the time another fanatical regime. This is not a new concept and ALL countries are guilty of this type of "hands on politics" in some segment of their timeline. Furthermore Quwait pleeded for help while the U.N. turned their head.

Neither was OSBL the head of the Taliban and Al-Quida, he's more of a figurehead or spokesman a financier. The mission in Afganistan was NOT to bring back OSBL's head on a spear. I'm sure some on the presidents staff disagreed with that diction. Regaurdless the skirmish in Afganistan was a success, the mission was accomplished.

I think we read different histories. But you are american, so it´s compreensive that you deffend your country.

Not all countreis are guilty, Brazil isn´t guilty, don´t put my country in this shit.

 

[beefybull]

My pet peeve is:

Seems like Bush has all but forgotten about Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, Saudi's and all his cronies. Nice to see Bush basically allowed him to escape. And now he wants to concentrate all his resources and time on a long-drawn out war on Iraq.

I wouldnt necessarily agree, Nav. I imagine the Al Qaeda people that are captured are being tortured deep inside a milit. base right now.

I recently read an article in which a former CIA agent said that he thought Al Qaeda was about as good as KGB was years ago now that the world has seen their manuals. (Although I personally thing a lot of it is info you could get of the 'net).

 

[Robert Jan]

Basically, youre attacking Iraq because they MIGHT have weapons of mass destruction and they MIGHT use them in the future. apparently thats reason to invade a country.

well hello.

the usa HAS weapons of mass destruction and HAS used them several times

(nagasaki, hiroshima, remember that time the afghans fled by the millions to pakistan and you guys were attentive enough to drop a daisy cutter on their ass on their way out, FLEEING?)

remember in Chile when they had democratic elections and somebody won who wouldn`t toss over all their natural resources to the usa for nothing and help the starving people instead?
I`m talking Nixons time here.
Kissinger had it all figured out.
the CIA infiltrated state instances bribing chile people.
the highest man in the army was faithful to the people of chile and would not let himself be bribed. on the way to a meeting the road was blocked, he had to take a detour over a smaller road, he was stopped and liquidated. the new leader was bribed and fought a military coup overthrowing the democratic leader that did not suit the usa.
then of all hypocrisy, they act like pinochet is so evil and so nasty, while its the usas MAN!!!!!!!

the same thing happened in many countries.
libya, Zaire, argentina, saudi arabia.

its modern day colonialism. at least as violent as the old kind, with a solid dose of hypocrisy to it.

Iraq is next I suppose.

The EU is no better and plays it all together with the USA.

 

[minion]

I think we read different histories. But you are american, so it´s compreensive that you deffend your country.

Not all countreis are guilty, Brazil isn´t guilty, don´t put my country in this shit.

ALL countries are guilty of this type of "hands on politics" in some segment of their timeline
What do you think I meant by this? I believe you misinterpret my meaning.

 

[Edu]

>the usa HAS weapons of mass destruction and HAS used them
>several times

Yeah, but we're America. We can do whatever the hell we want, cuz we know what's right for everybody (sarcasm intended).

-= nav =-

But, maybe in the future the USA won´t be the leader, the best militar country. And I think that your sun won´t agree with your opinion.

 

[Nasty Black Bitch]

I am an ignorant asshole