the Universe Is Not "Billions of Years"Old (Imnotdutch)

[big_bad_buff]

It happens to be true........you live in a Christian country and have bought into everythnig that you are told. The same applies to many Muslims (just an example). Fact is, you tend to adopt the religion of your community instead of making an educated choice.

So you gonna answer Normans points now? (I tihnk that was his name).

Quit ducking..........

it happens to be true that you made a false statement, then tried to cover it up? Quit ducking!!

what you don't understand is, that I have done research on evolution, then I came to the conclusion that it has serous issues. you don't think I second thought creation at a early age? of course I did, and everyone should, like most people do. you should not simply believe something just because someone says you should. research it for yourself.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Ah fuck you.......you KNOW the community affects your beliefs. But now you are trying to duck answering because you KNOW that is the reason that YOU are a christian and not a muslim, agnostic, hindu, atheist etc.

As for my research........I have done REAL research in my life. That is how I used to make a living........scientific research. I dont mean sitting at home reading two-bit web pages that are full of mistakes. Answer me this.......what do YOU think of Stephen Jay Goulds ideas? How about Richard Dawkins? Why cant RD's ideas about microevolution be expanded to macroevolution? What exactly is the major problem with this? You are prob now desperately looking for web pages on these two.....no doubt you'll even find misquotes concerning SJD......like I said........MISQUOTES.

Go ahead........read some of those web sites you love so much (even though they are erroneous in the info they represent).......problem with the web is that anybody can post anything for or agaisnt an argument so this is a poor resource for research. Try reading some books........leading evolutionists have had some serious debates via their books. Get the ideas straight from the horses mouth instead of tenth hand via biased sources.

The reason I believe in evolution is because it is logical........IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE THEORY AS IT EXISTS TODAY. Unfortunately most people are stuck on Darwins original theory. The reason that I dont believe in God or the Creation is because it is illogical.......any support that you have posted in support of the latter has been shown to be erroneous and you cant answer the criticisms. Face facts........your brain is struggling to adjust because you dont know enough. Now run along and do that research........I can recommend some reliable texts if you wish.

it happens to be true that you made a false statement, then tried to cover it up? Quit ducking!!

what you don't understand is, that I have done research on evolution, then I came to the conclusion that it has serous issues. you don't think I second thought creation at a early age? of course I did, and everyone should, like most people do. you should not simply believe something just because someone says you should. research it for yourself.

 

[big_bad_buff]

Ah fuck you.......

poor guy, are you getting mad because you know your full of shit, and so is your theory?

As for my research........I have done REAL research in my life. That is how I used to make a living

evolutionists and lawyers are kind of the same, they both get paid to lie and make shit up


scientific research. I don't mean sitting at home reading two-bit web pages that are full of mistakes.

yes, you haven proven to me once again, that your mere words contain all the facts anyone needs. of course i have to present the desirable quotes and website facts, but you my friend, you just have to speak lol.

Answer me this.......what do YOU think of Stephen Jay Gould's ideas?

yes, back to this schmuck. the frustrated man with a theory with nothing to support it, and he even said so. you are a fool to believe in this. you should just make your own theory up rather than believe some other geeks that clearly stated he has no evidence for. maybe startrekology or something. are you really this stupid, or just acting like it?


Go ahead........read some of those web sites you love so much (even though they are erroneous in the info they represent).......problem with the web is that anybody can post anything for or against an argument so this is a poor resource for research.

Try reading some books........leading evolutionists have had some serious debates via their books. Get the ideas straight from the horses mouth instead of tenth hand via biased sources.

are you saying that I have not? i think you need to look at the cover of your books, and you will see the word fictional on it somewhere.

The reason I believe in evolution is because it is logical.

.......IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE THEORY AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

yes, and Mr Goulds is great one to learn from

The reason that I don't believe in God or the Creation is because it is illogical.

can't the two co-exist like you stated earlier? yes, there is a lot of logic that we evolved from nothing there are too many things to list that science can't explain, and make logic of. but with enough time they will be able to lol.

any support that you have posted in support of the latter has been shown to be erroneous.

just because you say so, you can't even support your own words.

I forgot your a guild follower. just pack your shit up and leave this thread

 

[Imnotdutch]

Oh so you cant answer my questions.........that is all you had to say.

Hide behind smartass remarks if you like but the fact remains that you clearly aren't as smart as you are trying to make out. I did wonder why everybody was laughing at your comments.......

Ah fuck you.......

poor guy, are you getting mad because you know your full of shit, and so is your theory?

As for my research........I have done REAL research in my life. That is how I used to make a living

evolutionists and lawyers are kind of the same, they both get paid to lie and make shit up


scientific research. I don't mean sitting at home reading two-bit web pages that are full of mistakes.

yes, you haven proven to me once again, that your mere words contain all the facts anyone needs. of course i have to present the desirable quotes and website facts, but you my friend, you just have to speak lol.

Answer me this.......what do YOU think of Stephen Jay Gould's ideas?

yes, back to this schmuck. the frustrated man with a theory with nothing to support it, and he even said so. you are a fool to believe in this. you should just make your own theory up rather than believe some other geeks that clearly stated he has no evidence for. maybe startrekology or something. are you really this stupid, or just acting like it?


Go ahead........read some of those web sites you love so much (even though they are erroneous in the info they represent).......problem with the web is that anybody can post anything for or against an argument so this is a poor resource for research.

Try reading some books........leading evolutionists have had some serious debates via their books. Get the ideas straight from the horses mouth instead of tenth hand via biased sources.

are you saying that I have not? i think you need to look at the cover of your books, and you will see the word fictional on it somewhere.

The reason I believe in evolution is because it is logical.

.......IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE THEORY AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

yes, and Mr Goulds is great one to learn from

The reason that I don't believe in God or the Creation is because it is illogical.

can't the two co-exist like you stated earlier? yes, there is a lot of logic that we evolved from nothing there are too many things to list that science can't explain, and make logic of. but with enough time they will be able to lol.

any support that you have posted in support of the latter has been shown to be erroneous.

just because you say so, you can't even support your own words.

I forgot your a guild follower. just pack your shit up and leave this thread

 

[SSAlexSS]

Moron, the UNIVERSE is billions of years old. The earth and the solar system and niagra falls are not the UNIVERSE. they are younger.

I dont reprimand you for having faith, but this is one of the most moronic threads ever.

No time = no evolution? NO SHIT sherlok holmes. Let me give you a quick lesson. God did not make you. You evoved from a monkey. The reason we have intelligence is because some monkeys evolved to be bipedal, so they could use their hands for something other than walking around. Use of hands = tools = intelligence and manipulating the environment. Its simple, we are not special or blessed by a wizard in the sky, we are simply the ONLY bipedal mammals. That is why we have intelligence and why we are superior to all other creatures. What compels you to not accept this as the truth.

some species went unchanged for millions of years. Why are there still monkeys? Didnt they evolve into us? Why are there monkeys in the zoo? Why arent these monkeys evolving, considering that they have even better situation - someone to copy - us??????

 

[big_bad_buff]

some species went unchanged for millions of years. Why are there still monkeys? Didnt they evolve into us? Why are there monkeys in the zoo? Why arent these monkeys evolving, considering that they have even better situation - someone to copy - us??????

get ready for a ducking and dodging from Imnotdutch. or he will refer to guilds theory HAHAHAH. yes guilds theory explains this question quite well. these were isolated instances. some monkeys were hanging from trees with their thumbs up their asses, while the others were busy evolving

 

[Imnotdutch]

The word 'monkeys' covers a lot of species. Those that are around today are more like our cousins than our descendants. Also, these animals are better adapted to their particular environments than humans........so where is the impetus for change?

I see BBB is being as narrow minded as ever.

some species went unchanged for millions of years. Why are there still monkeys? Didnt they evolve into us? Why are there monkeys in the zoo? Why arent these monkeys evolving, considering that they have even better situation - someone to copy - us??????

 

[Imnotdutch]

The word 'monkeys' covers a lot of species. Those that are around today are more like our cousins than our descendants. Also, these animals are better adapted to their particular environments than humans........so where is the impetus for change?

I see BBB is being as narrow minded as ever.

some species went unchanged for millions of years. Why are there still monkeys? Didnt they evolve into us? Why are there monkeys in the zoo? Why arent these monkeys evolving, considering that they have even better situation - someone to copy - us??????

 

[big_bad_buff]

The word 'monkeys' covers a lot of species. Those that are around today are more like our cousins than our descendants. Also, these animals are better adapted to their particular environments than humans........so where is the impetus for change?

I see BBB is being as narrow minded as ever.

yes, are cousins! not our descendentseven more far fetched reply than I expected to receive from you. your getting more and more obscure as you go more into your theory. please enlighten me with a book, website, article you get this information from. Or did you come to this conclusion yourself after your "years of research"?

did you post this twice to get your point across better?lol.

 

[Drunken_Weasel]

yes, are cousins! not our descendentseven more far fetched reply than I expected to receive from you. your getting more and more obscure as you go more into your theory. please enlighten me with a book, website, article you get this information from. Or did you come to this conclusion yourself after your "years of research"?

did you post this twice to get your point across better?lol.

How is that so fucking hard to beleive? You say that science and religion can coexist, then why do you keep bashing what you don't beleive? This thread is fucking rediculous, along with you're persistance in bashing Evolution. I don't bash Creationism, even though I don't beleive in it. It would be great if you would do the same.