The Ultimate P C T ?

[BOOEY]

Let's hear your ultimate p c t, including supplements, vitamins, etc. Also include training method and diet. Goal is to keep as much of the gains made on cycle as possible! Be specific in dosages and why you picked something over another.

For arguments sake, let's say the cycle is a 12-weeker, ending on a long-ester compound. Cycle included 1-2 orals, used at the beginning. (I think this would be a pretty fair characterization of a 'general' cycle).

 

[lartinos]

Death

 

[Nelson Montana]

H CG

Arimidexx

UNLEASHED

POST CYCLE

MyogenX

Dermacrine

BIG BLAST

Getting your ass back to the gym

Lots of sleep.


What? No Clomid? DAMN STRAIGHT!

 

[lartinos]

igf-1 and possibly nolvadex are great too IMO.

 

[a creed]

HCG
AIFM
Clomid


"'nuff said"

 

[BIGMIke007]

HCG
Nolvadex
CEE
GABA
Animal Stack 2

 

[Anthony Roberts]

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/post-cycle-therapy.htm

 

[gyle]

You know me I just stick with an all " Silly Putty " PCT!

 

[SLAYER69!]

You know me I just stick with an all " Silly Putty " PCT - post cycle therapy - !

Remember to add daily jerking off.

 

[OMEGA]

assuming long esters used:

1 week after last shot
HCG 2000 ius Every 4th Day with an aromatase inhibitor
do this for 3-4 shots

Drop the HCG - continue with
Clomid at 50 mgs a day along with an aromatase inhibitor for another 3-4 weeks

Blood Tests after.

As far as Supplements you need Recovery, Energy, and Phosphate loading:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...enght-motivation-after-cycle-read-510883.html

 

[Anthony Roberts]

If weight/strength loss after a cycle is a concern, I'd try Amp02. It actually put too much weight on me, personally, and I got up to a high of about 223-225lbs. I also set personal records in my incline bench, close grip bench, and some other stuff as well.

Hormonally, supplement-wise, you need MyoGenX and Unleashed after a cycle, at the very least, especially if you aren't using a traditional pharmaceutical PCT.

 

[OMEGA]

Hormonally, supplement-wise, you need MyoGenX and Unleashed after a cycle, at the very least, especially if you aren't using a traditional pharmaceutical PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Agreed

 

[njmuscleguy]

I've tried a whole mess of P C T regimens... most of them were nightmarish, but this is based on what worked best for me:

Depending on the long ester, start H C G 1-7 days after last shot. Run 500iu ED for 10 days. (Alternative is to run 250-500iu H C G each week throughout the cycle). Be sure to run your A I for up to 3-5 days after last H C G shot.

I love using I G F for P C T... helps maintain gains, keeps fat off... 40-80mcg ED for 4 weeks.

Derma Sustain worked nicely in helping to prevent crash...it helped me

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Didn't you use MyoGenX too?

 

[BOOEY]

How about this?

Post Cycle Supps:
- HCG 2000ius every 4 days for 3.5 weeks
- Amp02 recommended dose for 4 weeks
- POST-CYCLE or Unleashed (?) recommended dose for 4 weeks
- Nolvadex 50mg ed 1st week followed by 20mg ed for 3 weeks
- Multi-vitamin

Training
- Simple, compound movements. Low volume, high intensity. Out of the gym within 45 minutes.
- Cardio 2-3 times a week. 45 minutes at low intensity.

Diet
- Maintenance calories
- High protein, good carbs and fats ONLY - no cheating.
- 50/30/20 p/c/f ratio
- Lots of water

Sleep well.
Plan new cycle.

Thoughts?

 

[OMEGA]

I've tried a whole mess of P C T regimens... most of them were nightmarish, but this is based on what worked best for me:

Depending on the long ester, start H C G 1-7 days after last shot. Run 500iu ED for 10 days. (Alternative is to run 250-500iu H C G each week throughout the cycle). Be sure to run your A I for up to 3-5 days after last H C G shot.

I love using I G F for P C T... helps maintain gains, keeps fat off... 40-80mcg ED for 4 weeks.

Derma Sustain worked nicely in helping to prevent crash...it helped me

good to hear thanks NJ

 

[BOOEY]

How about this?

Post Cycle Supps:
- HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 2000ius every 4 days for 3.5 weeks
- Amp02 recommended dose for 4 weeks
- POST-CYCLE or Unleashed (?) recommended dose for 4 weeks
- Nolvadex 50mg ed 1st week followed by 20mg ed for 3 weeks
- Multi-vitamin

Training
- Simple, compound movements. Low volume, high intensity. Out of the gym within 45 minutes.
- Cardio 2-3 times a week. 45 minutes at low intensity.

Diet
- Maintenance calories
- High protein, good carbs and fats ONLY - no cheating.
- 50/30/20 p/c/f ratio
- Lots of water

Sleep well.
Plan new cycle.

Thoughts?

bumpin this

 

[BigBastard]

IGF R3 works wonder for me PCT. If I use small amounts og HCG throghout the cycle I feel that the post-crash is much small- I retain more strength.