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The truth behind egs....

out_at_sea

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What would be a dangerous amount of eggs (yolk included) that one can eat on a daily basis? Even though is dietary cholesterol ...wouldnt be dangerous to have lets say 4-6 eggs a day?



I thought that there is no proven link between dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol, and that high cholesterol levels in the blood are due to a genetic predisposition. Is that right?

Anyone have some solid info that could settle once and for all the myth--or not--of egs having a bad impact on serum cholesterol?

OAS
 
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I have at least three eggs a day, usually around 6 - that's whole eggs, not egg-whites. My cholesterol levels have always been great (but I'm not on any gear). I'll have another test done either at the end of this week or start of next, and will post results, just in case anyone cares.
 
ohashi said:
I have at least three eggs a day, usually around 6 - that's whole eggs, not egg-whites. My cholesterol levels have always been great (but I'm not on any gear). I'll have another test done either at the end of this week or start of next, and will post results, just in case anyone cares.

Mine is great too.....last time I checked was around 150...

Dude, 6 eggs seems a bit too much to me...
 
I spend about 16 hours a day in college, so hard-boiled eggs are a convenient source of food for me (along with almonds, whey shakes, and dry oatmeal). It's all a matter of convenience, you know?
 
What you eat the eggs with or without is going to help provide the answer.

~SC~
 
he's referring to with or without the yolk. Although apparently a wives tale, it's still difficult to discard the information about excessive dietary cholesterol leading to high blood cholesterol. I'm somewhere in the middle at 3 yolks/day and 7 whites/day
 
I was referring to what other foods you eat your eggs with. Something that spikes insulin, or something that does not. Fat is not stored w/out an insulin surge, so if you can keep that in check, you an ingest far more fats per meal this way, and you don't have to worry about the fats affecting you in a negative way, especially if you are taking in EFA's/Hemp/Flax oil throughout the day as well.

IMO, bread is perhaps the crappiest choice one could make. I'd choose oatmeal, oatbran, etc., ditch the yolks, and use the whites if you are having carbs in your first meal of the day.

~SC~
 
~SC~ said:
I was referring to what other foods you eat your eggs with. Something that spikes insulin, or something that does not. Fat is not stored w/out an insulin surge, so if you can keep that in check, you an ingest far more fats per meal this way, and you don't have to worry about the fats affecting you in a negative way, especially if you are taking in EFA's/Hemp/Flax oil throughout the day as well.

IMO, bread is perhaps the crappiest choice one could make. I'd choose oatmeal, oatbran, etc., ditch the yolks, and use the whites if you are having carbs in your first meal of the day.

~SC~

I just cant see myself eating eggs with oatmeal....so, are you saying that bread in combination with yolks would give you an insuline spike?

To be on the safe side, how many eggs(yolks included) would be Ok on a daily basis?
 
out_at_sea said:

Anyone have some solid info that could settle once and for all the myth--or not--of egs having a bad impact on serum cholesterol?

OAS

Objectives: The main purposes of this study were (1) to assess the nutritional significance of eggs in the American diet and (2) to estimate the degree of association between egg consumption and serum cholesterol concentration.

Methods: Data from the most recent National Health and Nutritional Examination Survey (NHANES III, 1988-94) were utilized to compare the nutritional quality indicators of diets that contained eggs (USDA food grouping system) with those that did not. Nutrient intake (from 24-hour dietary recall), egg intake (from food frequency questionnaire), sociodemographic data and blood cholesterol levels of subjects who met inclusion criteria (n = 27,378) were grouped according to the occurrence and frequency of egg consumption and were analyzed using SUDAAN.

Results: Daily nutrient intake of egg consumers (EC) was significantly greater than that of nonconsumers (NC) for all nutrients studied (except dietary fiber and vitamin B6). Eggs contributed < 10% of daily intake of energy and vitamin B6, 10% to 20% of folate and total, saturated and polyunsaturated fat, and 20% to 30% of vitamins A, E and B12 in EC. Compared to EC, NC had higher rates of inadequate intake (defined by Estimated Average Requirements (EAR) or < 70% Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA)) for vitamin B12 (10% vs. 21%), vitamin A (16% vs. 21%), vitamin E (14% vs. 22%) and vitamin C (15% vs. 20%). After adjusting for demographic (age, gender and ethnicity) and lifestyle variables (smoking and physical activity), dietary cholesterol was not related to serum cholesterol concentration. People who reported eating > or = 4 eggs/wk had a significantly lower mean serum cholesterol concentration than those who reported eating < or = 1 egg/wk (193 mg/dL vs. 197 mg/dL, p < 0.01). More frequent egg consumption was negatively associated with serum cholesterol concentration (beta = -6.45, p < 0.01).

Conclusions: In this cross-sectional and population-based study, egg consumption made important nutritional contributions to the American diet and was not associated with high serum cholesterol concentrations.

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 75, No. 2, 333-334, February 2002
© 2002 American Society for Clinical Nutrition

Eggs and heart disease risk: perpetuating the misperception by Donald J McNamara
Egg Nutrition Center 1050 17th Street, NW Suite 560 Washington, DC 20036
E-mail: enc~enc-online.org

Conclusions:The fact that no studies in the past decade have reported a significant relation between either egg consumption or dietary cholesterol intakes and heart disease risk (5) is consistent with the view that the hypothesis that dietary cholesterol is a risk factor for heart disease should be dismissed. A small, statistically significant increase in the ratio of total to HDL cholesterol has little biological importance concerning heart disease risk when considered relative to those dietary and lifestyle factors that do in fact contribute to heart disease risk. Concerning the suggestion by Weggeman et al that eggs make no important contributions to the diet, I refer them to a recent supplement of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition (10) in which the merits of egg consumption are documented. In an evaluation of the relation between dietary cholesterol and the risk of heart disease, it is crucial to not only have accurate estimates of risk but also a practical perspective of what a risk estimate represents.

Bibliography
10. McNamara DJ, ed. Where would we be without the egg? A conference about nature's original functional food. J Am Coll Nutr, 2000;19:495S–562S.
 
I have read a study (can't find the source) where test subjects were given 3 eggs per day and their cholesterol levels only rose about 5%.

In scientific terms this can be considered "relatively little effect"
 
yup, i read a similar thing anthrax, and it said 1-2 eggs a day has little to no effect
 
Anthrax said:
I have read a study (can't find the source) where test subjects were given 3 eggs per day and their cholesterol levels only rose about 5%.

In scientific terms this can be considered "relatively little effect"

Interesting but 3 eggs per day for how long? The first thing a doctor usually tells you to drop when you have high cholesterol is eggs!
 
Musmar said:


Interesting but 3 eggs per day for how long? The first thing a doctor usually tells you to drop when you have high cholesterol is eggs!

If your doctor advised you to drop eggs first you'd rather drop your doctor

high GI carbs (sugar) and saturated fats are far worse than eggs
 
chordz said:
I only eat the egg whites. Good amino acid balance.

right, but the whole egg has a greater AA profile
 
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