the State of the Union address is fun to watch

[atlantabiolab]

This is a very conservative address, almost Reagan-esque. The dems are PISSED!

From what I witnessed, it was a very socialist address. Bush has a program for everything, except that program for paying for programs.....OOHHH, I forgot, we have to pay for these programs. Silly me.

 

[kaalgsio2]

I'll note your opinion there kaalgsio2. Such a reasoned argument as well.

wasn't an argument bro, just a fact.

 

[bigschweeler]

Watching the democratic response by Nancy Pelosi and Tom Daschle is going to do more for Bush and the GOP than the damn Republican convention.

I agree with you on the Pelosi part, but I actually thought Daschle spoke pretty well on a key issue the dems should use in the campaign: Jobs.

With the immigration policy that he outlined (I didn't see a ton of applause for that one even from rebuplicans), and the loss of jobs that Daschle highlighted, Bush has angered rebuplicans in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California, and left open an attack point for democrats.

I think he is banking that numbers continue to show positive signs, and the growth in the manufacturing sections continue. However, looking at the job losses the tax cuts have not been successful in creating jobs, and companies continue to outsource for cheap labor in other parts of the world.

How long can the economy sustain this recovery without jobs? Household savings are at an all time low, and household debt is at an all time high. Eventually, unless jobs are there, people won't be able to continue to spend and support the economy.

Plus health insurance premiums continue to increase making it less affordable for families.

I thought the speech was effective, but there are significant vulerabilities that the dems should target. I was also suprised that there wasn't a strong pro-life message in the speech.

 

[the nature boy]

did he really have to address the topic of steroids in professional sports? there aren't other important things to talk about?

 

[PHATchik]

It will probably be on TV there. Hope you took your headphones.

It was on three TVs there actually. Three different stations at that.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

We will need permission when China is #1.

Given tensions between regional and national government in China, as well as gigantic disparities between the city employees and more rural people, it's probably safe to say that China will go the route of the USSR in our lieftimes.

Also interesting is the fact that the Taiwanese are huge investors in mainland China.

China will be "#1" when Ethiopian tropps overrun washington.

Ya heard it here first. China will break up.




As to the State of the Union....too much big brother in that speech.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Given tensions between regional and national government in China, as well as gigantic disparities between the city employees and more rural people, it's probably safe to say that China will go the route of the USSR in our lieftimes.

Also interesting is the fact that the Taiwanese are huge investors in mainland China.

China will be "#1" when Ethiopian tropps overrun washington.

Ya heard it here first. China will break up.




As to the State of the Union....too much big brother in that speech.

Except that our power elite is heavily invested in Chinese manufacturing.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Except that our power elite is heavily invested in Chinese manufacturing.

We have an interest in keeping them poor. Some Chinese will get rich, and once they do, they too will have an interest in keeping the place largely poor. Someone has to make all that cheap stuff.

The overall standard of living will go up some, but there will be so mnay poor people that the coutnry's own welath won;t be able to sustain them.

With more welath comes more education, so the idea of jailing them out of sight won't seem so rational either.

Hence, breakup, or revolution, which is the same thing.

 

[Testosterone boy]

We have an interest in keeping them poor. Some Chinese will get rich, and once they do, they too will have an interest in keeping the place largely poor. Someone has to make all that cheap stuff.

The overall standard of living will go up some, but there will be so mnay poor people that the coutnry's own welath won;t be able to sustain them.

With more welath comes more education, so the idea of jailing them out of sight won't seem so rational either.

Hence, breakup, or revolution, which is the same thing.

That would work if there were 1/4 as many Chinese as there are. They can largely replace our workers.....and still be poor.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

That would work if there were 1/4 as many Chinese as there are. They can largely replace our workers.....and still be poor.

Actulally, the larger the population, the truer my idea is.

As China takes on more foreign investments, some Chinese will become rich. Only a few will, but there will be a few. (Some already are/already have).

Because there are so many workers, these few people will get even richer. The disparity from rich to poor will be great, and the poor will number in the hundreds of millions. If that doesn't signal breakup, I don't know what does!?