The Skinny on HMG

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Seems to be a lot of mystique surrounding HMG. For all the hype, Human Menopausal Gonadotropin, or HMG for short, is simply a mixture of natural LH and FSH. It is used to stimulate testosterone and sperm production in males. A mixture of hCG and rFSH (recombinant Follicle Stimulating Hormone) is also widely used for the same purposes with virtually identical results. HMG is relatively hard to find and expensive compared to hCG. I'm not sure about how difficult rFSH is to get or how expensive, but I just got a large supply of it from a women who had completed an In-Vitro procedure. So, thats a possibility for bros as it is widely prescribed for that and other infertility treatments. rFSH is essential in keeping the sperm production going in males who are on highly suppressive AAS cycles.

rFSH is generally used @ 75iu x 2-3 times a week along with hCG 500iu (I think this is high) x 2-3 week for Bodybuilders. The dose of HMG for male infertility treatment is LH/FSH (HMG) 75iu/75iu x 3 times a week.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Seems to be a lot of mystique surrounding HMG. For all the hype, Human Menopausal Gonadotropin, or HMG for short, is simply a mixture of natural LH and FSH. It is used to stimulate testosterone and sperm production in males. A mixture of hCG and rFSH (recombinat Follicle Stimulating Hormone) is also widely used for the same purposes with virtually identical results. HMG is relatively hard to find and expensive compared to hCG. I'm not sure about how difficult rFSH is to get or how expensive, but I just got a large supply of it from a women who had completed an In-Vitro procedure. So, thats a possibility for bros as it is widely prescribed for that and other infertility treatments. rFSH is essential in keeping the sperm production going in males who are on highly suppressive AAS cycles.

rFSH is generally used @ 75iu x 2-3 times a week along with hCG 500iu (I think this is high) x 2-3 week for Bodybuilders. The dose of HMG for male infertility treatment is LH/FSH (HMG) 75iu/75iu x 3 times a week.

Yeah hcg is more popular bacause it seems to be easy'r to get ,and is there a big difference in the out come of the aas user ?

Brad.

 

[dmc777]

Seems to be a lot of mystique surrounding HMG. For all the hype, Human Menopausal Gonadotropin, or HMG for short, is simply a mixture of natural LH and FSH. It is used to stimulate testosterone and sperm production in males. A mixture of hCG and rFSH (recombinant Follicle Stimulating Hormone) is also widely used for the same purposes with virtually identical results. HMG is relatively hard to find and expensive compared to hCG. I'm not sure about how difficult rFSH is to get or how expensive, but I just got a large supply of it from a women who had completed an In-Vitro procedure. So, thats a possibility for bros as it is widely prescribed for that and other infertility treatments. rFSH is essential in keeping the sperm production going in males who are on highly suppressive AAS cycles.

rFSH is generally used @ 75iu x 2-3 times a week along with hCG 500iu (I think this is high) x 2-3 week for Bodybuilders. The dose of HMG for male infertility treatment is LH/FSH (HMG) 75iu/75iu x 3 times a week.

Are you saying hcg at 500iu 2-3 times a week?

 

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Are you saying hcg at 500iu 2-3 times a week?

No, it was more to point out the disparity between the doses you regularly see bodybuilders taking and the doses used clinically for infertility. I'll leave that up to you to decide, but I think that the lower side is closer to your own body's gonadotropin production.

 

[MARITIME_STEEL]

I've been researching this alot lately and can't wait to try it.

 

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I've been researching this alot lately and can't wait to try it.

Unless and until HMG becomes readily available, IMHO, hCG is still the single most important PCT tool there is for male health during a cycle.

 

[nydj66]

LH triggers the production of testosterone in the testes and FSH regulates the release of that testosterone into the body.

HCG mimics LH and triggers testosterone production. If you're on cycle with testosterone and trying to keep your testes from atrophying then HCG is all you need. However, if for some reason you wanted to run a cycle without test, then using HMG or HCG combined with rFSH would allow you to maintain endogenous testosterone production and release.

The biggest benefit of HMG (or HCG + rFSH) would be in PCT where normal testicular function could be restored immediately following a cycle while a S.E.R.M. or A.I. could be used to hasten the recovery of the Hypothalamus and Pituitary.

 

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LH triggers the production of testosterone in the testes and FSH regulates the release of that testosterone into the body.

HCG mimics LH and triggers testosterone production. If you're on cycle with testosterone and trying to keep your testes from atrophying then HCG is all you need. However, if for some reason you wanted to run a cycle without test, then using HMG or HCG combined with rFSH would allow you to maintain endogenous testosterone production and release.

The biggest benefit of HMG (or HCG + rFSH) would be in PCT where normal testicular function could be restored immediately following a cycle while a S.E.R.M. or A.I. could be used to hasten the recovery of the Hypothalamus and Pituitary.

FSH is the gonadotropin that intitiates spermatogenisus and it does this by intitating the sequestering of testosterone in the testes. Once done, this process can be sustained by testosterone alone. There are a lot of players and a million biological processes going on here. Androgen binding protein, Leydig cells, Sertoli cells, LH, FSH, etc. and their effects on the Hypothalamus and the Pituitary Gland and the mechanisms in humans are not fully understood.

I fully believe, the best way to utilize HMG or hCG, FH and FSH is on-cycle, not for PCT. Using maintenance doses of these substances can keep your system running as close to normal as possible while on AAS. This is the new frontier and we all have much to learn. Call it On-Cycle-Therapy or OCT. IMHO, applying a well performed OCT will go further than anything in supporting male sexual health function than any PCT alone. And, in conjuction with PCT is the best preventative medicine there is for users of AAS. We have all this knowledge and these tools to use, that were not known to the bros in the good old days. Hopefully, serious irreversible negative side-effects of AAS use will become a thing of the past.

 

[wolfman87]

yeah hmg is expensive. if i were gonna use it while on cycle i would start out with half the 75iu's and work my way up from there. someone, (Nelson i think) said that 75iu's a week is good for what you said. at least that's what he said he does. it would just get too damn expensive for me though. however the lack of an estrogen spike would be worth it for some i think.