the seious body fat shredder cycle?

[van_wilder]

well i appreciate everyones advice, and i understand the argument to go natural...but why?why not use chemicals for what their designed for?i dont know about you, but when i was in school and had a test i didnt study for, i cheated my ass off...so now, i cheat in my ass...sorry, that wasnt very punny

you're 100% correct here... if you're gonna cheat why not cheat all the way? I say double all of the doses in your first post... or fuck... why not triple them??? that way you'll get the same results in a third of the time with less effort!

 

[swordfish151]

well i appreciate everyones advice, and i understand the argument to go natural...but why?why not use chemicals for what their designed for?i dont know about you, but when i was in school and had a test i didnt study for, i cheated my ass off...so now, i cheat in my ass...sorry, that wasnt very punny

this isnt a test in high school my friend..its your body and well you can do some seriouse shit to it if YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.....the problem is that Steriods isnt as simple as 1+1=2 its alot more complex then that...you have to have alot of key components down like diet/training/rest...

 

[van_wilder]

well i appreciate everyones advice, and i understand the argument to go natural...but why?why not use chemicals for what their designed for?i dont know about you, but when i was in school and had a test i didnt study for, i cheated my ass off...so now, i cheat in my ass...sorry, that wasnt very punny

1. it's already been said....but without proper diet and training all the drugs in the world will not help you...

2. you started without a decent base... it will take you more and more gear to get to where you want to be ie. abs and veins

3. those large amounts of gear are not good for your health

4. the consequences of AAS catching up with you are a lot worse than getting caught cheating at school

5. if you haven't done your research into diet and training, i can guarantee you haven't researched the drugs you are putting into your body which are very dangerous

there are many more reasons i could list here but you won't take the advice so why bother...just refer to my last point above this one. how old are you by the way... judging by the quality of your posts i'm assuming 16-18? in that case i'm glad you've loaded up on the GH!

 

[showmeyourtints]

wilder, you dont have to be a dick...im 27, and i always research what i do before i do it...ive done a few cycles before, that left me big and puffy, so now i want to be a little leaner..im sorry that not all of us were blessed with your awesomw fat shredding metabolism or your natural ability to get the gains that aas gives you without having to do anything illegal. god bless you and good luck in your natural bodybuilding competitions

 

[van_wilder]

wilder, you dont have to be a dick...im 27, and i always research what i do before i do it...ive done a few cycles before, that left me big and puffy, so now i want to be a little leaner..im sorry that not all of us were blessed with your awesomw fat shredding metabolism or your natural ability to get the gains that aas gives you without having to do anything illegal. god bless you and good luck in your natural bodybuilding competitions

not trying to be a dick... but you post asking for help... and then tell us you're not willing to do anywork because it's a lot wasier to cheat... what type of response did you think that would garner?

you've done cycles before and you're only 223 at 26%BF??? tells me you're not doing something right. spend some time on the diet and training boards.

hahahahaha...and that's my whole point! i am by no means genetically gifted! i started out as the skinniest fat kid ever.. but have managed to change my genetically challenged physique into an acecptable one through the following:

1. Time
2. Hard work
3. Research
4. Hard work

So I'm trying to give you the advice you asked for without pussy footing around... saying it any other way and you wouldn't have even looked at any of my posts.
Besides, I'm not sure if you were trying to insult me there but you did a horrible job at it.. I'm proud of what I have acheived naturally and i'm pretty sure it's a lot more than you've acheived without spending all that money on gear.

 

[timtim]

25% bf?

your caloric intake is way off. not sure what your eating but the #'s are straight garbage. post the complete diet for some help.

not going to comment on the cycle, do what you want. with your starting numbers the end result will not be what you think, should've started in much better shape.

post the diet.

 

[Dial_tone]

It takes real effort to get over 20% bodyfat. You must be eating everything that isn't nailed down.

 

[needsize]

one thing that isnt being considered here, is who tested his bodyfat. At my gym I've seen guys 5'9", maybe 170lbs with a flat stomach, being tested at over 20%

 

[showmeyourtints]

not trying to be a dick... but you post asking for help... and then tell us you're not willing to do anywork because it's a lot wasier to cheat... what type of response did you think that would garner?

you've done cycles before and you're only 223 at 26%BF??? tells me you're not doing something right. spend some time on the diet and training boards.

hahahahaha...and that's my whole point! i am by no means genetically gifted! i started out as the skinniest fat kid ever.. but have managed to change my genetically challenged physique into an acecptable one through the following:

1. Time
2. Hard work
3. Research
4. Hard work

So I'm trying to give you the advice you asked for without pussy footing around... saying it any other way and you wouldn't have even looked at any of my posts.
Besides, I'm not sure if you were trying to insult me there but you did a horrible job at it.. I'm proud of what I have acheived naturally and i'm pretty sure it's a lot more than you've acheived without spending all that money on gear.

wilder, your a living oxymoron...skinniest fat kid?all b.s. aside, i know that it takes hard work and a proper diet, and i do appreciate your responses, eventhough they seem insulting. im doing my best to keep my diet in line, and as far as training, im in every day for at least two hours a day, so i have put in my time....

 

[van_wilder]

wilder, your a living oxymoron...skinniest fat kid?all b.s. aside, i know that it takes hard work and a proper diet, and i do appreciate your responses, eventhough they seem insulting. im doing my best to keep my diet in line, and as far as training, im in every day for at least two hours a day, so i have put in my time....

again.. my posts weren't meant to be insulting to you... how is that an oxymoron? I was very small but still had significant bodyfat. and by time i meant years training... not the time you've spent in the gym this week. Anyhow.. this post is out of hand... i'm always available for diet and training help (at least to pass on what has helped me).. other than that good luck. i'm out.
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