The sad reality of coming off a high-dosed Androgenic cycle

[Juice Authority]

Bro's -

This has been the worst PCT crash of my life. For the last 10 weeks I've been on a 1gm of Test and 50mg's of D-bol ed. Between weeks 5-8 I was doing 50mg's ed of Winstrol then back to D-bol for the last 2 weeks of the cycle. Ironically, I lost most of the weight while I was still on the cycle using T-rex and Lipo, changing my diet and workout style. I went from 245 lbs to 215 in one month and was getting pretty ripped up. The reason for the high dose of Test and D-bol was to maintain strength and size while cutting up. So yes, both Test and D-bol can be used while cutting up.

Halfway through the cycle I started getting the typical side effects of an heavy androgenic cycle like this. The most noticeable however was the insomnia, which lead me to taking sleeping pills, Xanax and Vals. Bad choice, especially for me, I became a pill head and I have history of abusing Rec drugs and alcohol. After the cycle was over and the AAS began to clear for the first time in 4 years I got drunk, which was a Huge mistake, especially right after a cycle.

For the last week I've been an emotional basket case. Up and down like yoyo. Bursts of tears running down my face throughout the day. I feel so fucked in the head right now I don't know what to do. It's like the silent scream. War between my ears.

Anyway, I've been using HCG, Nolva and Proviron and good ole Nelson's PCT formula. I stopped taking the Proviron a couple of days b/c I'm not convinced it doesn't interfere with HPTA recovery when you're shut down like I am.

Any suggestions?

 

[Mike P.T.]

Time bro. Just keep a positive attitude and stay off for a bit to let your body normalize. Good luck man with your post cycle recovery and your other pill habit.

 

[Laser0001]

I was wondering why you hadnt posted all week.

Be Well

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Holy fuck man... that sounds considerably bad. Although, looking at all your symptoms (especially considering the cycle you just finished)... you're pretty much going through a garden variety post cycle crash. Not unlike many of us have suffered at one point or another.

JA- I did a fairly big cycle in the summer/fall of 2002... the one that took out my Kidneys. Anyways... my post cycle crash was BRUTAL. My moods were so dark and mean... I was having a raging outburst one minute, then sobbing the next. I went to my Doctor and told him my life felt like it was falling apart... he promptly put me on an anti-depressant. It did wonders... saved my relationship and my job, probably saved my life.

 

[Nighthawkk]

In certain instances, anti-depressants and psychotherapy can work wonders for anyone suffering from the symptoms you describe. I have tried this combination for the last year, while on and off steroids, and have NEVER suffered any sort of psychological crash of any sort post-cycle. I would also recommend laying off the recreational stuff for a while, like pot and alcohol, it just intensifies the problem.

 

[manny78]

Maca, Valerian roots to sleep, take your daily intake of vitamine C and E, Tyler Liver Detox to wash that liver, maybe a week off (both training and working) would be of a great help.

 

[PharmaPhreak]

Juice,

Sorry to hear about your prob's with post cycle recovery and all the other stuff. Just remember, it is times like these that you find out how true of a man you really are. Suck it up. Think of what positive things you have going for you right now, and dwell on those things. I know it will be hard, but you can overcome this.

I know from experience. Since the last week of my most recent cycle, I lost my job earning 6-figures easy, and have not been back at work for 2.5 months. I have done in excess every drug known to man (in the past), and when things go bad, it is tempting to mask your problems by going back to old habits (or forming new ones). I struggle with it every day.

Give us some updates every few days, it will help if you post your feelings. Call it therapy if you will.

Good luck

 

[totti28]

No offense bro but you seem somewhat unstable. Steroids are not for you at this point in time.

 

[PharmaPhreak]

totti,

dam man give a bro a break! Some positive info would help.

Why all the red karma anyways?

 

[Fonz]

1. Proviron at 100mgs ED
2. Androgel in the mornings only
3. GH at 4.5-6.75 IU's/day
4. Nolvadex at 10mgs ED

Androgel can raise your base test level by a good 300 points with a minimal impact on your LH levels. Proviron will help with any libido problems as well as acting as an anti-estrogen and LH booster. The GH will help keep any type of Post-cycle fat gain to a minimum, and also improve your sleep.

Fonz