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The 'Perfect' Cycle

Weeks 1-6: 75mg Fina ED
Weeks 1-6: 50mg Winny ED
Weeks 1-16: 75mg Test Prop ED
Weeks 1-12: 400mg EQ
Weeks 8-16: 40mg Var ED
Weeks 1-16: 4iu GH
Weeks 1-16: 10iu Slin ED (4on/3off) (4week on/2 off)

something like that..

D_H
 
wk 1-12: 1g test
wk 1-17: .5mg arim ed
wk 15-17: clomid
 
Re: Re: The 'Perfect' Cycle

sk* said:


I am sorry, but that's far from a perfect cycle.

-sk
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I don't like it either, but then again I don't like getting too fancy with the drug usage. Test 750mg/wk, fina 75mg/day, and femara eod...that's my perfect cycle (which shall be my next as well :D )
 
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The Terminator said:


I don't like it either, but then again I don't like getting too fancy with the drug usage. Test 750mg/wk, fina 75mg/day, and femara eod...that's my perfect cycle (which shall be my next as well :D )
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Exactly, that's about a perfect bulking cycle (maybe with different dosages), and a perfect cutter would be something like 75mg fina/day and 50mg winny/day.

I don't really like test though, so for my bulkers it's something like 75mg fina/50mg dbol. :)

-sk
 
How can anything that's so suppressive AND toxic be considered perfect? That stack sucks.

The most effective drug mg for mg: d-bol.

The safest drug with the most lasting gains mg for mg: primo.

What makes any cycle good is not so much what you do, but how you do it.
 
Nelson Montana said:
How can anything that's so suppressive AND toxic be considered perfect? That stack sucks.

The most effective drug mg for mg: d-bol.

The safest drug with the most lasting gains mg for mg: primo.

What makes any cycle good is not so much what you do, but how you do it.
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Toxic? 50mg/day Stan and 50mg/day Ox isn't that toxic. Just as toxic as their 17-alpha alkylated cousin, DIANABOL.

The toxicity of tren is far overrated. Its not liver toxic, like DIANABOL, but rather is only slightly kidney toxic.

While this is a suppressive cycle, so are almost ALL cycles. Any amount of test over 20mg/day will shut you down, let alone a gram per week. The sustanon is put in there to supply the test your body would otherwise be making.

The most effective drug, mg for mg is dbol? You mean, the most aromatizing, give-you-bitch tits, most out-dated drug, right? Please, this isn't the sixties. Move on.

As far as the primo goes, sure its good shit. But don't tell me a substance that is 3 to 5 times as active at the AR, like tren, is inferior to primo.

Nelson, I thought you were smarter than this.

And, as far as the GH goes, the guy who said pros don't even take that much GH doesn't know any.

All of you need to go back to school.
 
NOT ENOUGH TEST ALWAYS AT LEAST 1500 MG A WEEK OF TEST 16 -18-IU OF GH 300 MGS OF WHINNY AND OF TREN 400 DECA DURABOLIN NOT NORANDROLIN. THATS BETTER
 
Wow....... why perfect ? Explain. What is the lenght of such cycle ? When do you start each product ?
 
This is why I view it to be the perfect cycle.

  1. Very strong, non-aromizing androgenic and anabolic hormones
  2. Hormones that hypothetically have beneficial activity beyond simply being active at the AR
  3. The doses listed, when taken as a whole, offer a high amount of androgen without relying too heavily on any one hormone; minimizing the chance of side effects such as gyno or liver damage
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    Adding GH into the cycle at what I consider to be a high dose should not need any explaination.

    The main thing here is that one should be able to run this for 12 weeks without any serious sides; there isn't enough aromtization to cause serious bloat or gyno, and the 17 alphas are in reasonable quantities, which will spare the liver.

    Also, each of these hormones has, other than being active at the AR, a special 'bonus' effect that is specific to it. These hormones should synergistically work together to give you a multitude of positive effects.

    As far as the whole clomid, nolva, hcg, arimidex B.S., yeah...blah blah blah....it does not need repeating AGAIN here. We've all read it a million times and the presence of these should go without saying.
 
Well, unlike Big Johnson, money is kind of an issue for me. So in my situation, as I'm sure many of you are in the same boat, the perfect cycle would be FREE!!!!
 
Triple J said:
why do you prefer sust vs. a single ester?
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If you were to graph the decomposition rate of sustanon when injected once per three weeks, you'd see that the level of available test does not rise and fall as much as enanthate or cypionate, even when the later two are injected every five days. This equates to less bloating or side effects in general.

But, test is test :)
 
Big Johnson said:


If you were to graph the decomposition rate of sustanon when injected once per three weeks, you'd see that the level of available test does not rise and fall as much as enanthate or cypionate, even when the later two are injected every five days. This equates to less bloating or side effects in general.

But, test is test :)
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You got it backwards bro.

-sk
 
You got it backwards, bro.

From http://www.sover.net/~timw/ester.htm

Sustanon: The "king" of testosterone blends.
In clinical situations I can see some strong uses for it. If you were undergoing testosterone replacement therapy for example, you would probably find Sustanon a much more comfortable option than testosterone enanthate. You would need to visit the doctor less frequently for an injection, and blood levels should be more steadily maintained between treatments.

Looking at the chart below, it is easy to see why a person would feel a large decline in energy, libido, stamina, mood, and overall quality-of-life with two-or-more-week dosing, so we urge the physician to consider adjusting dosing strategies. We believe that the patient will experience the greatest quality-of-life improvement when the cypionate and enanthate esters of testosterone are administered once every seven days.

Also, from http://musclemonthly.com/articles/001001/001001-mooney-how-do-steroids-work.htm

Blood Level Versus Time in Days

Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 19801 and Nankin 19872

frequencychart.gif


We also suggest that forms of testosterone not currently available in the United States like Sustanon, which is a long-acting testosterone blend, with what appears to be a more consistent release (less peak and trough effect) than cypionate/enanthate be investigated.
 
I have had a bad day so I am not in the mood to refute it, but I will tomorrow. The site is wrong. There is a LOT of info on this site on why it's hard to maintain blood levels on sustanon .

-sk
 
sk* said:
I have had a bad day so I am not in the mood to refute it, but I will tomorrow. The site is wrong. There is a LOT of info on this site on why it's hard to maintain blood levels on sustanon .

-sk
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I'll post the information if I find it first.
 
ox and winstrol together? i dont think so... its not a smart idea, the most recent things i have read is how winstrol has a high toxicity on its own not just from the 17AA.

Now This...is what i consider a perfect cycle for myself

50mg BTG Oxandrolone ed 1-6
250mg Test Enanth E3D 1-12
400mg Deca 1-12
37.5mg Tren ED 12-15

Post Cycle Clomid, Arimidex, Clen.

if only i could cycle anymore :(
 
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