The noob's guide to the Oral Only Stack

[cyrex]

I can easily see the passion in your post. I also applaud the extent of the information you have provided.

However, I am going to take the position that there is a place for an oral only "cycle" with appreciable gains and no harm to the body.

I take this position from a personal knowledge and experience base that dates back to the 1960's.

People are very comfortable with taking pills. They have been doing this for some reason their entire lives. It is only natural for them to again turn to pills for the muscle performance gains they seek.

It is also easy to understand that people do not like "shots" and avoid them as much as possible. To tell a person to self-administer can be beyond comprehension. I was taught by a Doctor ... not everyone is that fortunate.

So we know our new person is going to take those pills. How best to use them then?

The key is dosage levels and the oral selected. The body is extremely sensitive to any aas. When even the smallest amount of steriods is prescribed for correction of a medical condition, there is a tremendous caution advised. For example, the dosage can be as little as 2 mg of anavar every other day for arthritis.

I would contend that if dosages are kept low ... 10 - 20 mg p/day max ... with a ramp up and ramp down over 6 weeks, the user will experience positive strength, size and mood changes. A large percentage of the growth will be maintained afterwards.

These changes will be positive and significant for a new person. They will allow the person to have this experience without harm to their body, including the liver, so they can decide the next step with some personal knowledge base and confidence. This next step will logically include injectables.

That will still do a number on the liver . . .

 

[cyrex]

FYI, BOB and JIM were both hit by a cement truck and are now dead although Jim lived 10 seconds longer

 

[KRATOS25]

scout 69 hit it on the head.

 

[wetback]

For clarification.....is an oral only cycle unwise ???

 

[cyrex]

For clarification.....is an oral only cycle unwise ???

unless you have a very valid reason that isn't
"scared of needles", "want to start slow/easy", etc

 

[cyrex]

bump for the newbies to the board

 

[mrp3652]

bump up a good post

 

[Mr.Muscle]

If two genetically identical twins both began seperate cycles. Bob taking dbol @ 40mg/day and Jim taking test cyp @ 500mg/wk.
Bob is scared of needles and bought 5 weeks worth of dbol for 1000 simolians. Jim is also scared of needles but researched on EF and everyone told him to suck it up and stick it in his ass so he's gonna give it a go. He paid 1000 simolians for enough Test cypionate to last him 10 weeks.


Wow! $1000 for 10 wks of test 500mg a wk. He must have got that from satch

 

[silver_shadow]

I can easily see the passion in your post. I also applaud the extent of the information you have provided.

However, I am going to take the position that there is a place for an oral only "cycle" with appreciable gains and no harm to the body.

I take this position from a personal knowledge and experience base that dates back to the 1960's.

People are very comfortable with taking pills. They have been doing this for some reason their entire lives. It is only natural for them to again turn to pills for the muscle performance gains they seek.

It is also easy to understand that people do not like "shots" and avoid them as much as possible. To tell a person to self-administer can be beyond comprehension. I was taught by a Doctor ... not everyone is that fortunate.

So we know our new person is going to take those pills. How best to use them then?

The key is dosage levels and the oral selected. The body is extremely sensitive to any aas. When even the smallest amount of steriods is prescribed for correction of a medical condition, there is a tremendous caution advised. For example, the dosage can be as little as 2 mg of anavar every other day for arthritis.

I would contend that if dosages are kept low ... 10 - 20 mg p/day max ... with a ramp up and ramp down over 6 weeks, the user will experience positive strength, size and mood changes. A large percentage of the growth will be maintained afterwards.

These changes will be positive and significant for a new person. They will allow the person to have this experience without harm to their body, including the liver, so they can decide the next step with some personal knowledge base and confidence. This next step will logically include injectables.

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to thelion2005 again.
good post

 

[cyrex]

If two genetically identical twins both began seperate cycles. Bob taking dbol @ 40mg/day and Jim taking test cyp @ 500mg/wk.
Bob is scared of needles and bought 5 weeks worth of dbol for 1000 simolians. Jim is also scared of needles but researched on EF and everyone told him to suck it up and stick it in his ass so he's gonna give it a go. He paid 1000 simolians for enough Test cypionate to last him 10 weeks.


Wow! $1000 for 10 wks of test 500mg a wk. He must have got that from satch

SIMOLIANS lol not $$$..