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On July 3, after an Israeli from the settlement of Susiya in the southern West Bank was found murdered, and without any suspects being identified or arrested, the Israeli army unleashed an unprecedented campaign of revenge and ethnic cleansing against the entire civilian Palestinian population of the area. (The same day the Israeli government authorized a wholescale campaign of assassinations as well.) As this is being written (Thursday evening, the 5th of July), we are in the third day of this campaign.

The first 24 hours witnessed the demolition of at least five Palestinian homes in the city of Yata, which was completely sealed off to the outside world, leaving the army to act with impunity towards the civilian inhabitants. Reports are that up to a thousand residents were forced from their homes before demolishing dozens of them. The army also attacked residents in the entire rural area between Yata and the area around Jibna where the Palestinian "cave-dwellers" live. Additional houses were demolished, wells and reservoirs destroyed and the agricultural infrastructure severely damaged. Even the Channel 1 Israel news spoke of the army as acting out of "revenge." If this is so, the Israeli army, which once prided itself as a "defense" force whose moral code included "purity of arms," has been reduced during the repression of the past months into a mere gang.

The fact that no outside observers were allowed into the entire West Bank south of Hebron during this 24-hour period, including journalist and human rights observers, and even the Red Cross was prevented from providing humanitarian aid to the hundreds of families affected, raises fears about acts of violence and intimidation committed with absolute impunity by an army against a defenseless civilian population (most of the area affected is in Israeli-controlled Area C). Not only does international law forbid such actions, but the Fourth Geneva Convention requires Israel as an occupying power to protect the civilian population under its rule and provide for its welfare.

Among the families whose dwellings were destroyed was Rasmiya Nawaja Jamal, a woman in her 60s whose husband Mohammad was murdered by settlers from Susiya ten years ago (no one was ever tried). Rasmiya, who ekes out a living as a shepherd, managed to raise 12 children on her own, the family living in an underground cave. Since her compound is situated close to Susiya, the family has endured harassment for many years, including settlers riding horses through her living area. Two years ago the Israeli Civil Administration demolished the cave, claiming that the Nawaja family had no permit to live there.

Rasmiya then constructed an ingenious compound over her demolished cave, made of skeletons of automobiles. She and her smaller children lived in the shell of a mini-van, her son and his family lived in the cab of a truck, and a pick-up truck was converted into a stable. Rasmiya used the fenders to fence off her gardens, and even constructed a cooking area of solar panels. On Tuesday morning the army returned and destroyed Rasmiya's compound, as well as those of her neighbors, making more than 50 people homeless. They also uprooted more than 1000 olive trees belonging to Rasmiya and her neighbors, and destroyed all their cisterns.

This morning we received word that Civil Administration bulldozers were destroying homes, farming structures and cisterns in the area of Jibna. This is where, two years ago, the Israeli army tried to force the area's 3000 farming families out of their cave dwellings where they had lived for generations. In October, 1999, the Israeli army declared their lands -- some 100,000 dunams of land (25,000 acres) south of Hebron -- as a "closed military area." (In fact, this was only one of 16 orders closing vast tracts of land throughout the West Bank at that time.) The land, though semi-arid and rural, is home to an entire society of Palestinian farmers who had farmed and grazed that area for centuries, developing a unique culture around the many caves that dotted the mountainous landscape. The expulsion order affected, at that time, around 42 families, consisting of around 730 people (among them some 500 children), were violently and brutally driven from their homes.

They army claimed they needed the land for a "firing zone," but in fact it is coveted because it connects the Israeli city of Arad with the settlements of the area and creates a corridor from Israel to Kiryat Arba and Hebron. At that time ICAHD and other Israeli human rights organizations initiated an appeal to the Supreme Court, which ruled in March of 2000 that the families would be allowed to stay in their homes until the issue of their residence was resolved. Since that time, the Civil Administration has admitted it cannot find fault with the families' claims to the land. Today's action, then, was intended to by-pass the Supreme Court by simply demolishing the houses under the guise of "security." One of the caves, belonging to the family of Musa Jabarin, was demolished today, together with four other houses, a number of cisterns and many farming structures essential for the economic survival of the community. Clothes, furniture, dead chickens, pieces of pens and chicken coops lie scattered over the ground. (Pictures will be posted on the AIC website: www.alternativenews.org). Many other families were ordered to remove their belongings and preparations were made to demolish their homes as well. But an appeal to the Attorney General's Office has resulted in the Civil Administration being ordered to desist -- at least for the time being.

It should be noted that according to Amnesty International Israel has demolished at least 7000 Palestinian homes since 1967, to which more than 500 have to added since the second Intifada began.

At a time when Sharon is being feted by the Chancellor of Germany and the President of France, Israel's occupation and the actions it engenders stands in stark violation of international law. Collective punishment is explicitly forbidden in Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, and the demolition of houses constitutes a grave violation of Article 53. The increasing use of international courts to enforce accountability to human rights covenants (upon which Israel itself has signed) should put the Israeli government and its agents on notice that they may find themselves one day being tried for war and civil crimes. Besides the simple injustice and moral indefensibility of such actions.

Contact your political representatives, write in your local newspapers, let your voice be hear in your community against this increasingly brutal Occupation which is destroying Palestinian and Israeli societies alike.
 
nordstrom said:
I'm sure the sources are biased, anytime there is an issue there don't tend to be many independent sources of information.

They're not biased, they're just full of propaganda. There's a huge difference between subjective bias and state-sponsored propaganda emanating from some piece of shit dictatorship. Almost all academic works have a bias, but they're usually aware of their subjectivity and even say so.

If you go to any university library, you can find a tonne of works on the Israeli-Arab conflict that are not partisan, yet not full of archaic, racist propaganda. The stuff on the sana website is complete bullshit.

nordstrom said:
However, i don't see how that makes the arguments false. No one here condemns Menachim Begin and his terrorist outfit Irgun, but everyone condemns Yassir Arafat and the PLO.

Describing something as vicious propaganda doesn't automatically discount some of the evidence present in that particular propagandistic and reductionist argument. But that's what propaganda is. It takes very complicated issues and reduces them to being simple non-arguments.
 
K.A.R.R. said:


I'm sorry, but those links are outrageously biased and full of propaganda. The first link is from www.sana.org - that's a state-controlled Syrian site - Syria is an authoritarian, backward state. Everything that you see on that website has zero credibility.

The other two links are just as bad. If you want good info, you'd have to go to your local public or university library or find some reputable scholarly journal online.
It's obvious you're new to the board, Nordstradamus is remarkably adept at finding unbiased sites that support his diatribes into the absurd.:alien:
 
they are all as bad as each other, the jews are on palestinian lands you can see the grievance but during a war (as the extreme palestinians class it) only the truly evil would want to kill women and children.

As for calling palestinians Nazi thats bullshit, after all Jews had not invaded nazi land, nor do palestinians have anything politically in common with them
 
OK I think I have something here. Ask yourself these questions.

1. Have you ever seen a movie portraying Native Americans in a negative role? YES of course.

2. Have you ever seen a movie portraying Arabs in a negative role? Yes of course.

How about Germans?
Canadians?
Egyptians?
Mexicans?
Blacks?
Yes of course you have, I can name MANY for each. I can think of a movie portraying almost all people in a negative manor except ONE.

JEWS.
You see what they want you to see. Wake up,, the truth is not on the T.V.
Its sad.
 
I dont remember seeing any movies portraying Christians in a negative role...We are talking about religion right???Compare apples to apples please...

XCYTER said:
OK I think I have something here. Ask yourself these questions.

1. Have you ever seen a movie portraying Native Americans in a negative role? YES of course.

2. Have you ever seen a movie portraying Arabs in a negative role? Yes of course.

How about Germans?
Canadians?
Egyptians?
Mexicans?
Blacks?
Yes of course you have, I can name MANY for each. I can think of a movie portraying almost all people in a negative manor except ONE.

JEWS.
You see what they want you to see. Wake up,, the truth is not on the T.V.
Its sad.
 
XCYTER said:
OK I think I have something here. Ask yourself these questions.

1. Have you ever seen a movie portraying Native Americans in a negative role? YES of course.

2. Have you ever seen a movie portraying Arabs in a negative role? Yes of course.

How about Germans?
Canadians?
Egyptians?
Mexicans?
Blacks?
Yes of course you have, I can name MANY for each. I can think of a movie portraying almost all people in a negative manor except ONE.

JEWS.
You see what they want you to see. Wake up,, the truth is not on the T.V.
Its sad.

Ummm.... why do we need movies to portray the jews in a negative fashion? have you ever read the NEW TESTAMENT? while a wonderful and sacred collection of writings, it is FULL of not-so-subtle anti-jewish sentiment. i quote: "and the JEWS cried out with ONE voice... 'CRUCIFY HIM'"

anybody with half a brain can look at a hollywood which portrays a people in a negative manner and see through the bias. the more blatant a message, the easier it is to see around it. i contend that the subtle, insidious way in which the jews are portrayed in a negative fashion throughout one of the most widely read books in the world has had far more deliterious on that people than any cheesy hollywood condemnation of the germans or indians.
 
"Just what exactly is going on here? That's easy. We are all witnessing an attempt by the Arab world governments in general, and the Palestinian Authority in particular, to finish the job that Hitler started. Six million is not enough for these New Nazis; they want the rest to disappear as well. "

I dont think the palestinians give half a fuck if they are jews hindus christians sikhs or whatever the fuck.
they just want them to piss off
 
My point was this: The T.V. is controlled by the Jews so how can you believe what you see on the T.V. concerning a conflict that involves the Jews.
And also to prove that point, I asked you to name a movie portraying Jews in a negative manor and Im sure none of you can.
This has nothing to do with the Bible.
 
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