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JKurz1

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The more I find out that many people use one food for a carb source, i.e. rice, oats, yams, etc........Does anyone subscribe to this theory? I was thinking about having 1/2 cup -3/4 cup of steel cut oats 4x a day (first four meals) than switching to fiberous veggies............def. make for less planning.......anyone?
 
JKurz1 said:
The more I find out that many people use one food for a carb source, i.e. rice, oats, yams, etc........Does anyone subscribe to this theory? I was thinking about having 1/2 cup -3/4 cup of steel cut oats 4x a day (first four meals) than switching to fiberous veggies............def. make for less planning.......anyone?
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I don't understand what the benefit of that would be... unless like you said, it just saves time thinking about what you're going to eat. However, eating a variety of foods I would think would be healthier since you obviously get more nutrients from some foods than others. But then again, a lot of bodybuilders overlook "eating healthy" to achieve their goals...
Besides that, by the end of a couple weeks of doing this, would you ever be able to eat oats again?
 
ashley2212 said:
I don't understand what the benefit of that would be... unless like you said, it just saves time thinking about what you're going to eat. However, eating a variety of foods I would think would be healthier since you obviously get more nutrients from some foods than others. But then again, a lot of bodybuilders overlook "eating healthy" to achieve their goals...
Besides that, by the end of a couple weeks of doing this, would you ever be able to eat oats again?
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It would be a great benefit as oats are a very solid carb source......no, honey, I eat to train...........I've probably eaten a doen eggs and chicken breasts for the past 2 years......DAILY!
 
I use brown rice and oatbran almost exclusively, makes it very easy to plan and cook the meals for the week. I Cook one big pot of brown rice, 6 chicken breasts, some turkey patties, salmon and ground turkey on Sunday, then weigh and put each meal in a tupperware container. Through out the week, all I do is reach in the fridge and grab my meals for the day. I think that varying the meats/protein helps me over look the monotomy of the brown rice. I spice it up once in a while with beans or low carb torts instead of rice. I also use alot of fibrous veggies when I cut carbs very low. I only use oatbran for protein shakes, usually 2-3 meals of the day.

BTW Jkurz
Are you still using the Carb Counters low carb milk? They stopped selling it at the Trader Joes where I used to buy it so I'm wondering if it's just TJ's or everywhere.
 
SoreArms said:
BTW Jkurz
Are you still using the Carb Counters low carb milk? They stopped selling it at the Trader Joes where I used to buy it so I'm wondering if it's just TJ's or everywhere.
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carb counters or carb countdown?

they sell carb countdown at wal-mart. the chocolate has a higher nutional value than the white (weird)
 
ChewYxRage said:
carb counters or carb countdown?

they sell carb countdown at wal-mart. the chocolate has a higher nutional value than the white (weird)
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oops, I meant carb countdown, thanks

nutional or nutritional? :D
 
JKurz1 said:
It would be a great benefit as oats are a very solid carb source......no, honey, I eat to train...........I've probably eaten a doen eggs and chicken breasts for the past 2 years......DAILY!
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Okay, HONEY. I didn't mean it to be directed at you. What I meant was, I've heard of a lot of people who will overlook "eating healthy" - ie, including enough veggies, and some fruit and dairy (though minimal) - because they don't care so much for their health as they do for their figure. I would think that several sources of carbs would be better for your health due to the variety of nutrients (for instance, you don't get all of the same nutrients from brown rice that you do from a sweet potato).

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
ashley2212 said:
Okay, HONEY. I didn't mean it to be directed at you. What I meant was, I've heard of a lot of people who will overlook "eating healthy" - ie, including enough veggies, and some fruit and dairy (though minimal) - because they don't care so much for their health as they do for their figure. I would think that several sources of carbs would be better for your health due to the variety of nutrients (for instance, you don't get all of the same nutrients from brown rice that you do from a sweet potato).

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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thats were supps like multi vits, mineral pills, etc come in, honey! :D
 
John WB said:
Get the fat free then. No fat. The chocalate 2% has 2.5g of saturated fat and 4.5g total.

The fat free has more sugar, but again, no fat. And the sugar is only 1g more.
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the chocolate taste about 100x better too.

forgot to mention that :D

i'm not afraid to eat fat either. i drink it with fat/protein meals....
 
ashley2212 said:
Okay, HONEY. I didn't mean it to be directed at you. What I meant was, I've heard of a lot of people who will overlook "eating healthy" - ie, including enough veggies, and some fruit and dairy (though minimal) - because they don't care so much for their health as they do for their figure. I would think that several sources of carbs would be better for your health due to the variety of nutrients (for instance, you don't get all of the same nutrients from brown rice that you do from a sweet potato).

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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I must agree........but def. more with protein sources......different efa's, viamins, minerals, nuritrients........I'm going to eat my normal meals, but I was thinking of adding this ON TOP of them......trying to put on some mass....
 
Shoot, it makes it easy to eat the same things IMO. My diet is basically:
Chicken
Turkey
Oats
100% Whole Wheat Pasta (PWO Meal 2)
Whey
Okra

And if i've been good I have the occasional ANPB + sugar free jelly + 100% stone ground wheat bread samich ;)
 
SoreArms said:
thats were supps like multi vits, mineral pills, etc come in, honey! :D
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No supplement can give you all the nutrients found in fruits and vegetables and vice versa... its probably best to use both.
 
JKurz1 said:
I havent had a piece of fruit in YEARS........hardly the case.
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but you had like 3 threads where you talked about how you implementing a banana PWO as your carb source
 
My problem with the steel cut oats seems to be indigestion - I can eat the rolled oats without trouble - but for some reason the steel cut oats don't sit well. It sucks because I enjoy the taste, quality, etc., bah....I've opted for oatbran in it's place.
 
Stryc-9 said:
My problem with the steel cut oats seems to be indigestion - I can eat the rolled oats without trouble - but for some reason the steel cut oats don't sit well. It sucks because I enjoy the taste, quality, etc., bah....I've opted for oatbran in it's place.
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Man, I eat it daily with zero problems and my stomach is sensitive as hell.....makes me feel a litle full if I have them in the pm, but as a first meal, I'm good to go...

Bran - it was a thought, but got slammed by too many people for replacing liver glyogen.......I do take back what I said, I experienmented with a grapefruit in my first meal (1/2) but that lasted 10 days max....just didnt care for it....

Problem is, when I was in Costa Rica 2 years ago, I had an apple that wa so tainted with a pesticide, that I was literally keeled over, seconds from getting flown back to the states from being diagnosed with a ruptured appendix....that's how much pain I was in.....they thought my appendix shattered......surely you know how hard it is to eat something when you get fing sick from it.......might be able to stomach a granny smith cause it's tart, but not sure....
 
Well let's see...

If you used one complex carb source, let's say oats, and about 0.5-1.0 lbs. of lettuce daily, what would you be missing out on. How much unhealthier can it really be to eat oats and lettuce, rather than oats, yams, brown rice and lettuce? Show me what nutrients are significantly devoid there.

And even if there are a few (which I doubt, but I'm not positive), a multivitamin and mineral with a high bio-availability can counteract the lack of nutrition. People say the regular food is better, but I really don't see how this is true. As long as the vitamin you have is being absorbed enough to equal the amount of nutrition you would get from the regular food, there would be no difference, aside from the lack of substance in your stomach, but that's not the issue.

The only real issue that would present itself would be the boredom of consuming the same thing day in, day out, in extreme amounts. I could know. Ten servings of oats a day for a month or so. It killed me after awhile. If you can get past that, go right ahead and eat the same complex carb source. Make sure to have veggies. That's where most people miss out on health. Vegetables. Romaine lettuce especially.

Fiber too. Make sure to get fiber from something. Ground up flax seeds provide this along with other benefits.
 
JKurz1 said:
Problem is, when I was in Costa Rica 2 years ago, I had an apple that wa so tainted with a pesticide, that I was literally keeled over, seconds from getting flown back to the states from being diagnosed with a ruptured appendix....that's how much pain I was in.....they thought my appendix shattered......surely you know how hard it is to eat something when you get fing sick from it.......might be able to stomach a granny smith cause it's tart, but not sure....
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oh god
getting that sick in a foreign country is THE WORST
personally, I eat a banana for breakfast sometimes cause I like them
but I think fruit is mostly sugar and any little vitamins in them can be mostly found elsewhere and frankly aren't worth all the simple carbs, especially when it's an act of god to keep my waist in check even while eating healthy :)
 
Tom Treutlein said:
Fruit is mostly water and fiber.
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:confused:

but calorically the calories come more from sugar than fiber, as opposed to vegetables which more calories come from fiber than sugar

right?
 
Bran987 said:
:confused:

but calorically the calories come more from sugar than fiber, as opposed to vegetables which more calories come from fiber than sugar

right?
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thats what i was thinking.

most people avoid high GI carbs like sugar which comes from fruit
 
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