The good the bad the realistic

[Judo Tom]

ill never do a cycle again that makes me feel like crap! F that.

Test only is great so I can always and I do mean always use test and enjoy it.

I will stick with test as a base and only in mild / safe compounds in and keep the dosages on the low side so i dont have to deal w/ a ton of sides.

 

[CSB]

while on i want to breed as many times with as many women as possible and all i want to do when i wakeup is have sex and workout.

while off my life is normal. usually halfway through my cycles i get sick of the above, after all this isn't 10,000BC where i can fight and have sex all the time, i actually have to run a biz and live a normal life with responsibilities today lol.

every cycle has been unique in its own way but the best feeling cycle i ever had was dbol/sust/deca. classic mass and strength gainer cycle. i was up at 6am and starving.. i ate a ton.. went to the gym and pumped iron. then came home and ate more... i felt good 24/7.

agreed 100 % think you best described how a perfect bulker should feel

Judo most definitely but we live and learn, for me tren on its own as an aggressive steriod was acceptable but have now learnt the addition of anadrol in my case has made the start of this cycle unpleasant and has gone against what steve has just described, its working against me in the most important areas, that being sleep and diet

 

[stevesmi]

my problem with tren is i always was thirsty and de-hydrated on it.. it really annoying having to drink and piss so much.

my next cycle is gonna be masteron and primo i think... but i am still debating

 

[Judo Tom]

oh trust me i didnt start off this smart Lots of researching helped and knowing who to listen to helped a ton but of course you gotta experiment and find out what works for you.

Im also not a big fan of orals.. my liver has been through a lot for one lifetime and Id rather not stress it much if I can avoid it.

Also once I really got my diet down hard I realized I didnt need 5 compounds and 2gs of stuff to have good results.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

my problem with tren is i always was thirsty and de-hydrated on it.. it really annoying having to drink and piss so much.

my next cycle is gonna be masteron and primo i think... but i am still debating

I understand this very well. Running Tren A, Test P, and Mast now and I cannot quit drinking and pissing. Everytime I do it I tell myself not again but the results from Tren are hard to beat.

 

[gstacker]

Maybe you need to focus on strength training for awhile, cut the volume down, quit looking at the scale, the mirrior and concentrate on bringing up youre compound lifts n setting goals there... Just a thought

 

[CSB]

Maybe you need to focus on strength training for awhile, cut the volume down, quit looking at the scale, the mirrior and concentrate on bringing up youre compound lifts n setting goals there... Just a thought

you might be onto something there , i havent concentrated on that in awhile and some of my lifts arent what they could be , my volume has been pretty high

i didnt even think to mention i am running to the toilet every 2 min literally haha its annoying

 

[CSB]

just a quick update and a bizzarre twist , ok so i been suffering along, and after the switch from cutting i gained alot 14-15lbs on this bulk , the past few days i been steadily declining weight wise as much as 5-6 lbs , which along with the sides hammered my motivation , i started arimedex on saturday at .4 eod

i have been avoiding the mirror for awhile, when i finished cutting my upper abs were visiable but not lower and i was happy to start the bulk, so i decided to check now, all abs out, vascularity has increased alot

i was so surprised because i have ramped my calories to 3500 to 4000 , stopped all cardio and consuming 1/2 a gallon milk a day and carbs are way up.

for the first time in a long time i have dropped bodyfat and increased size , so a happy chappy for awhile lol

 

[CSB]

Ok happy was short-lived lol

Down another 3 lbs ?

Ok timeline :

Cruise and cut low dose test e
Week 1 switch to bulk sust / tren e weight 220 lbs
Week 2 add anadrol up 7 lbs cal 3500
Week 3 up a further 7 lbs
Week 4 start low dose ari by wed (today) down 7.5lbs cal up round 4000

Now I expect water fluctuations but almost 8 lbs seems excessive ,I am still on anadrol.I have lost bodyfat as a positive but this sudden decrease is worrying at the moment ! As has been mentioned I have all the sides associated with the compounds I am using so far!

Only thing I can think of is readjusting diet and eating more ?

 

[Nelson Montana]

That cycle is like trying to fill your 20 gallon gas tank with 500 gallons of jet fuel. What you're going to wind up with is exactly what 20 gallons of gas will give you.

In other words, it's way overboard, overkill, unhealthy, pointless, excessive and potentially dangerous.

And you're wondering why you don't feel well?