The gains seem to have stopped??

[Nucman]

I started out with:
800mg Test E/wk
55mg Tren ed
for 4wks

I went from 220 to 230/235 with lots of bloat by week 2, so ordered fem, and have been on fem .5mg ed for the last 3 weeks. No more bloat. I cycled out the tren for deca 400/wk and D-bol 55mg/d, for the last 3 wks up till now.

While I was blowing up with water, I did lower the test to around 500/wk, but after the fem, I'm back up again.

I'm still at the same wt for the past 3wks????
Cals around 4000, 300 plus gms of protien. The D seemed to stim my appetite, and have upped the cals a bit now. People have commented that I have leaned up a bit, but no more bulk.
I was doing some clen and T3, but have now eliminated it and all cardio out, because I thought it might be stopping my gains.

The proposed cycle was 12wks:
800mg Test E 1-12
600mg Deca 1-12
55mg tren 1-4
55mg D 5-12

But didn't get the Deca in time, so I had to start it late. I did double dose the 1st 2 doses to front load.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm a little perplexed as to why I'm not gaining any more wt? I'm supposed to be on another 4 wks, but if I not gaining any more, why waste the gear?
Any ideas?

 

[locolou]

for best gains off deca you should:
body weight x 2mg= dosage
ex. 150lbs. x 2mg= 300mg deca week
You probably should of started lower mgs on the test as well.
What are your stats?

 

[Nucman]

6'1", 230 lbs, prob 12%, 12yrs wt training, Natural the last 5 yrs.

 

[locolou]

I personally would not have taken the clen and/or t3 until the end of my cycle especially while on deca and test. The majority of your weight would be water but that helps muscle growth. Kinda like the whole creatine theory. I would have started lower doses on deca and test and probably would have taken only these 2 for starters. Depending on your cash flow you might want to stop, plan out your cycle better and dont be too eager. The gains will come.

 

[mrjrock19]

i wouldnt cut out the cardio bro, unless you don't want the lean look. it isnt going to stunt your muscle growth. i dont know what it could be. are you getting plenty of rest, shocking your muscles by changing up workout routines....good luck man, keep up the intense workouts...

 

[muscleup]

maybe your training to much

 

[Triple-G]

you have leaned out but kept your weight, therefore you have added muscle mass and dropped fat. so far so good. i wouldn't worry, continue your cycle.

 

[Nucman]

Well I stopped the fem about 5 days ago, and no bloat on this gear. And I've been avoiding the scale for the last week, and just stepping on it today, 222.5 .....hmmmmm almost like I'm post cycle with out any PCT! I lost almost everything I gained off of the 1st half of the cycle, and when I switched gear, I think it was all bunk! It has to be. I'm dong almost 2g ew, eating like a fiend, training 4-5 days a week, and now all of the sudden I dropped all the wt i gained? WTF. If it's confirmed, I'll post the name of the scammer. I'm going to try to have it tested to see what if any gear is in there.. Any idea on where and how much will it cost?

 

[Del_Piero]

That sucks bro, seeing the gains go is one hell of a feeling....I wish I dont ever go through this

 

[DJ_UFO]

At least in my case, test enanthate kicks in by week 4-5.