The FAT Chronicles

[Lao Tzu]

I guess my intention is to get people to think about WHY they do what they do.

Why *do* some of you go out of your way to say hurtful things to and about fat people? What purpose does it serve for you?

It must serve SOME purpose, because some of you are going at it with dedication that is nothing short of admirable.

I think it's psychological. I wrote a post about that 2 years ago, and mistyp basically said the same thing i said, it has to do with projection & maintaining the validity of your lifestyle by attacking contradictory lifestyles.

Thats my theory at least.

 

[Zirakzigil]

For most of you, the longest contact you have with anyone fat is looking at one of us in public for, say, five to ten minutes.

I cant help if you people are mesmerizing when u walk..jiggle jiggle

Lets put it this way ATroll. I dont hate fat people. However I think SEVERELY OBESE people are disgustingly poor excuses for human beings. how could a person EVER EVER EVER eat so much god damn food that they would weigh say 350 lbs or more (unless it is one of the very rare exceptions where its mainly muscle). I feel guilty when I eat what I dont need because so many people starve (even though I know its all due to the politics of food distribution), how could someone much away and gain 150 lbs of lard!!??!?!?!

that is mind boggling

Plus I have a certain morbid fascination with the problems fat people face. I mean i would have NEVER thought that there are people so god damned obese that they cant even wipe their own god damned ass. When you get to that point you are no longer worthy of respect as a human being, youre a blob of lipids worthy only of derision

 

[Gorlim]

we insult you lazy fuckers so that maybe u'll realize how having the personality of a sloth is very frowned upon and u should get your life in shape instead of lying in bed and eating.

 

[Fonz]

I guess my intention is to get people to think about WHY they do what they do.

Why *do* some of you go out of your way to say hurtful things to and about fat people? What purpose does it serve for you?

It must serve SOME purpose, because some of you are going at it with dedication that is nothing short of admirable.

Damn this thread is lonnnnnnggg.

Anyways, to the discussion at hand:

Obesity causes the bodies
autonomic systems to start to FAIL.

If it weren't for medical science, 30-40% of obese
people would be dead.

Overweight/obese people need A LOT of medical care.
This costs a LOT OF MONEY.

Type II diabetes/High blood pressure/cardio-pulmonary
problems/estrogenic based cancers etc.. etc...

ALL THESE problems stemming from obesity.

All this makes obesity the #1 killer in the US today.

And you wonder why people don't like overweight
people from a socio-economic perspective?

Fonz

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

When you get to that point you are no longer worthy of respect as a human being, youre a blob of lipids worthy only of derision

Well, how are these people supposed to change if all they get is condemnation from other people?

We just had one of these guys on our board. He was so ashamed of himself he wouldn't even SEE the doctor anymore. But, with a little support, this person decided he really did want to turn his life around and is making some moves toward getting health care, getting out of a depressing life situation, and losing some weight.

If he had come in there and we had all said, "Well, you fat lazy slob, get out of here, etc" he just would have felt worse.

It's hard to have any faith in your ability to do anything, and in the idea that you deserve any better, when all you hear is negative. You can only go so long with people putting you down before you start to believe it.

Think of the worst thing you've ever done. Wouldn't you want the person to forgive you?

Last but not least, all sorts of "larger" people are on that board. We are not all three and four hundred pounds. A lot of people are there because even 20 extra pounds is not well tolerated in some quarters. You haven't seen all the posts ... just a, well, biased sampling.

Why must everyone look like an Adonis and exercise manically? Not everyone can be, or wants to be, a bodybuilder. I'm sure it takes you guys a lot of time, and some of us are just not that interested in that much exercise.

It isn't fair to lump all people over a size whatever into one group and make blanket assumptions. Do you do this with black people? Oriental people? Smokers? Animal lovers ... ? Etc ...

*If* I were to treat this group the same way ... well, I'm not going to repeat what I'd come in here and say.

It wouldn't foster much peace, would it?

 

[p0ink]

nordstrom was right on the money with everything he said, as was fonz (fonz always is though). The reason I started this thread in the first place was because a bunch of fat people in my area were forming a coalition to sue the fast food industry for making them fat, which is a bunch of bullshit. No one forces these people to eat this way. Human beings have free will, but when things don't work out in their favor, they have to find a way to blame it on everyone around them, instead of taking responsibility for themselves. By all this litigation, health care costs, disability, etc is it wrong for me to be upset for paying for someone else's unhealthy lifestyle? Should the american public just embrace this apathetic, lazy, unhealthy lifestyle as if it were a positive thing? I don't think so. And to be quite honest with you, when I saw alot of the posts over there, it just made me even more angry, because i saw what the over all consensus was in terms of people's attitude about obesity. They want to bitch and moan about it, blame fast food, blame the diet industry, blame tv, blame magazines, etc. but *NEVER* take the responsibility for their own obesity. Instead of people trying to work on ways to fix this problem, they encourage people to stay at the completely unhealthy weight they are at and just be 'comfortable with themselves' as the rest of us foot the bill for this lifestyle. And when I was posting over there, which I don't anymore, everything i posted was not once in a condescending manner, it was more like "why dont you try this, or try that" and the things still get erased. The people there do do not want to hear that something is their own fault, god forbid. But if i were to post 'obesity is not your fault, it is society's fault' i would get a bunch of "amen's" "poink is so smart" "we should really sue the entire american society for making us this way" etc. And once again, dont think i hate every person who is a lb over weight, because that is not the case. I simply hate those with the attitude that many of them over there so proudly display.

 

[Magnus T Rico]

I have been reading this for awhile now. I am big and fat. Approximately 400 lbs. and 30% bodyfat. I have received my fair share of negative comments. The thing that sets me apart from the people on NAAFA is that I decided to do something about it. I don't listen to what some of those assholes say about me. I have to many other things to worry about than what goes through some numb nuts jock's brain. I have to pay rent, utilities, buy gas for my SUV, etc. Just like everyone else.

The 2 main reasons that I have decided to change my appearance is that I have gotten into martial arts and that I am tired of being fat. Been fat all my life. I want to try the other way. Now some of you fat asses may think that I have issues and don't like myself or some bullshit like that. Let me assure you the only issue I have is whether to use EAS's Muscle Drive HP or Optimum Nutirition's Pro Complex for protein supplement. That and whether to have mixed vegetables or one type with my grilled chicken.

Take objection if you will. I have better things to do than worry about what some idiot has to think.

Poink, I agree with most (if not all) of what you have said. No one held a gun to my head and made me eat McDonald's or force fed me ice cream or made me do whatever. I MADE ME!! And I will REMAKE me. Just need a little time.

As a side note, I started working out at my local Gold's last Monday. I only heard two negative comments and those were not about my bodyweight. They were about the weight I was pushing (pretty damn light). Everyone there was helpfull and I generally had a good time. Next week can't get here fast enough. Today is supposed to be an off day frome lifting, but man I want to get in there and pump some iron something fierce!

 

[p0ink]

magnus, congrats for you. i have the utmost respect for people that try to do something about it. don't worry about what people may think or say at the gym, because everyone has to start somewhere...oh yeah, what martial arts are you doing? i'm in two myself

 

[Magnus T Rico]

Thanks for the support. I am currently taking Jeet Kune Do and Kali/Arnis. I plan on starting some European Sword work within the month.

Again, I made me. I will remake me. Damn, should that be a motto or something?

 

[Zirakzigil]

Why must everyone look like an Adonis and exercise manically? Not everyone can be, or wants to be, a bodybuilder. I'm sure it takes you guys a lot of time, and some of us are just not that interested in that much exercise.

You dont have to exercise manically to be toned. I work out 1 hour a day, 45 min is weights, 15 min is climbing stairs. I bet most of u people spend longer than that eating.