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This was 2 posts from the administrator of that site. Need I say more?
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Posts advocating weight loss are not allowed, nor are posts that are openly insulting to fat people. All such posts will be removed. "Used To Be You"'s posts were both, and were thusly removed. If you want to read those kinds of posts, kindly avail yourselves of the Weight Watchers or Elite Fitness discussion forums. Such posts will not be allowed on NAAFA's boards.
Thanks, Therese. Yes, the post was too harsh. The comment about Spandex or whatever it was was what cinched it for me. I refuse to allow those sort of commments on the board, and I have a hard time believing anyone who would make comments like that has any interest in bringing anything positive to these forums. Thanks for understanding.
As for advocating weight loss--no, it's not allowed by ANYONE, not even regular posters. IMO, it's OK for you to mention your own weight loss, for example "I've made x lifestyle changes and I've actually lost weight", or "I'm hoping to lose weight to improve my mobility", etc. But you should never suggest to another person on these boards that they should think about losing weight. Kristie, does this outline your thinking on the subject as well?
Toodles, no, your post won't be deleted, because it's not against any rule, silly or not. Again, if you want to talk about weight loss, go elsewhere. NAAFA's exercise boards are for the discussion of movement for better health or fun. If you think the rules of the board are silly, you're more than welcome to frequent weight loss boards to get the sort of discussion you're interested in. Advocating weight loss is not allowed on NAAFA's boards.
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Posts advocating weight loss are not allowed, nor are posts that are openly insulting to fat people. All such posts will be removed. "Used To Be You"'s posts were both, and were thusly removed. If you want to read those kinds of posts, kindly avail yourselves of the Weight Watchers or Elite Fitness discussion forums. Such posts will not be allowed on NAAFA's boards.
Thanks, Therese. Yes, the post was too harsh. The comment about Spandex or whatever it was was what cinched it for me. I refuse to allow those sort of commments on the board, and I have a hard time believing anyone who would make comments like that has any interest in bringing anything positive to these forums. Thanks for understanding.
As for advocating weight loss--no, it's not allowed by ANYONE, not even regular posters. IMO, it's OK for you to mention your own weight loss, for example "I've made x lifestyle changes and I've actually lost weight", or "I'm hoping to lose weight to improve my mobility", etc. But you should never suggest to another person on these boards that they should think about losing weight. Kristie, does this outline your thinking on the subject as well?
Toodles, no, your post won't be deleted, because it's not against any rule, silly or not. Again, if you want to talk about weight loss, go elsewhere. NAAFA's exercise boards are for the discussion of movement for better health or fun. If you think the rules of the board are silly, you're more than welcome to frequent weight loss boards to get the sort of discussion you're interested in. Advocating weight loss is not allowed on NAAFA's boards.
ATrollFromTheFatBoard
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Hi there, p0ink.
Thanks so much for taking quotes off our board out of context, altering some of them, and reposting them here.
I have only one question for all of you buff bods out there.
Why, exactly, do you people hate fat people so much?
For most of you, the longest contact you have with anyone fat is looking at one of us in public for, say, five to ten minutes. I'm sure you don't know anyone fat, because if you identified this particular physical characteristic with anyone you cared about, you might feel differently to hear someone you knew and liked or even loved being spoken to in the manner I've observed here.
What, exactly, do fat people do to you to justify all this vitriol?
Thanks so much for taking quotes off our board out of context, altering some of them, and reposting them here.
I have only one question for all of you buff bods out there.
Why, exactly, do you people hate fat people so much?
For most of you, the longest contact you have with anyone fat is looking at one of us in public for, say, five to ten minutes. I'm sure you don't know anyone fat, because if you identified this particular physical characteristic with anyone you cared about, you might feel differently to hear someone you knew and liked or even loved being spoken to in the manner I've observed here.
What, exactly, do fat people do to you to justify all this vitriol?
ATrollFromTheFatBoard
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I did lose weight once.
And you know what??? I was MISERABLE!!!
I was miserable because I was so busy comparing myself to what everyone ELSE said I "should" be. I was so busy telling myself that unless I wore a size 6 I was nothing ... unless my body looked like the beautiful models in Glamour I just would never be a good enough person, and that no matter who I was or what I did, it just didn't matter unless I had the "right" body. And no matter how hard I worked, I couldn't get the "right" body.
And believe me, I *worked.* I HATED it, but I did it. I lost 30 lbs, weighed 135, and wore a size 8. And I still wasn't happy.
Some time ago I had a major improvement in my self-esteem. I don't want to write a novel here so I won't explain how, but since I came to value all the things in me as a person that are worth so much more than looks, lots of really great things have happened in my life.
I have a great relationship with a wonderful guy. I thought that could only happen if I were thin.
I have a much better job, with all the money I want and more time off.
I have great friends now. I thought this wouldn't happen unless I looked the way I am "supposed" to.
Incidentally, turns out I have had a potentially disabling medical condition, probably for a few years now, and didn't even know it until last year. (No, it isn't caused by being overweight.) This puts most women who have it in the hospital, but I have NO pain whatsoever.
I'm not going to complain about it!
Basically, my life is SO much better than when I spent hours and hours of my life running down the road, trying to look like a TV star.
No, I don't look like any of the pictures p0ink has posted. I'm not even as big as Camryn Manheim. I wear a size 18. But that is still big enough to have strangers stop me and make an ugly comment or two.
I do exercise, and I do work with free weights. I plan to do what my body can handle and progress at my own speed. But the quality of my life is more about how I treat people, not how I look ... after all, it's only how many inches this way, and how many inches that way. There is so much more that determines the quality of your life, and what you bring into the lives of other people.
I'm a nice person, and most people who know me are glad they do.
Now, what have I done that you should hate me for?
And you know what??? I was MISERABLE!!!
I was miserable because I was so busy comparing myself to what everyone ELSE said I "should" be. I was so busy telling myself that unless I wore a size 6 I was nothing ... unless my body looked like the beautiful models in Glamour I just would never be a good enough person, and that no matter who I was or what I did, it just didn't matter unless I had the "right" body. And no matter how hard I worked, I couldn't get the "right" body.
And believe me, I *worked.* I HATED it, but I did it. I lost 30 lbs, weighed 135, and wore a size 8. And I still wasn't happy.
Some time ago I had a major improvement in my self-esteem. I don't want to write a novel here so I won't explain how, but since I came to value all the things in me as a person that are worth so much more than looks, lots of really great things have happened in my life.
I have a great relationship with a wonderful guy. I thought that could only happen if I were thin.
I have a much better job, with all the money I want and more time off.
I have great friends now. I thought this wouldn't happen unless I looked the way I am "supposed" to.
Incidentally, turns out I have had a potentially disabling medical condition, probably for a few years now, and didn't even know it until last year. (No, it isn't caused by being overweight.) This puts most women who have it in the hospital, but I have NO pain whatsoever.
I'm not going to complain about it!
Basically, my life is SO much better than when I spent hours and hours of my life running down the road, trying to look like a TV star.
No, I don't look like any of the pictures p0ink has posted. I'm not even as big as Camryn Manheim. I wear a size 18. But that is still big enough to have strangers stop me and make an ugly comment or two.
I do exercise, and I do work with free weights. I plan to do what my body can handle and progress at my own speed. But the quality of my life is more about how I treat people, not how I look ... after all, it's only how many inches this way, and how many inches that way. There is so much more that determines the quality of your life, and what you bring into the lives of other people.
I'm a nice person, and most people who know me are glad they do.
Now, what have I done that you should hate me for?
Lao Tzu
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ATrollFromTheFatBoard said:
Why do you bother? this board has as much in common with yours as a neo-communist board has in common with alt.worship.rush-limbaugh. This is multiculturalism, and none of us are going to change our views to accomidate our (percieved) radical antithesis.
It was wrong for p0ink to go to your board and give you 'advice', and it is wrong for you guys to come here. Why can't people just believe what they want.
ATrollFromTheFatBoard
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Yeah, I agree.
We don't have much in common, and we probably aren't going to change each other's minds.
But when people can disagree without hate, we will go a long way toward getting along.
When I can live my life without condemning yours, we will go a long way toward living side by side in peace.
When we can just live, and not have to be "better" than the next person, the world will become a happier place for all.
I'm sure that if I want to strengthen my arms and cure my backaches (which I do) there's a lot you people know that I could benefit from learning.
And I suspect that some fat people know a few things about life that could benefit some thin folks as well.
Can't we get along without the hate?? What purpose does it serve??
We don't have much in common, and we probably aren't going to change each other's minds.
But when people can disagree without hate, we will go a long way toward getting along.
When I can live my life without condemning yours, we will go a long way toward living side by side in peace.
When we can just live, and not have to be "better" than the next person, the world will become a happier place for all.
I'm sure that if I want to strengthen my arms and cure my backaches (which I do) there's a lot you people know that I could benefit from learning.
And I suspect that some fat people know a few things about life that could benefit some thin folks as well.
Can't we get along without the hate?? What purpose does it serve??
Lao Tzu
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ATrollFromTheFatBoard said:
perhaps i misread your intentions in your first posts. Its just that the 2 boards have central principles that are contradictory. one is obsessed with creating a 'perfect' body (fuck, i've seen some people treat body dysmorphia as a good thing on this board), and another is obsessed with tolerance for looking however you already look.
I don't know, nevermind me.
ATrollFromTheFatBoard
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I guess my intention is to get people to think about WHY they do what they do.
Why *do* some of you go out of your way to say hurtful things to and about fat people? What purpose does it serve for you?
It must serve SOME purpose, because some of you are going at it with dedication that is nothing short of admirable.
Why *do* some of you go out of your way to say hurtful things to and about fat people? What purpose does it serve for you?
It must serve SOME purpose, because some of you are going at it with dedication that is nothing short of admirable.
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