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The End of Faith

Lestat said:
I agree with that actually, I do believe that religous thought and belief are a product of evolution.

I do also belief that we as humans are capabile of some sort of "mystical" or spiritual experience...

my argument is that these things like other complicated facets of human beings and the world, can be looked at logically and rationally. NO need to simple belief in something or put faith in something because it is what you are taught is right.

so often people are guilty of logical inconsistencies. Because you cannot explain it does not necessarily mean it was the work of a God.
 
LOL. Even when I was out of my mind for Jesus, I don't think I criticized anyone harshly for not believing. I just kept saying, "watch and you will see." Even I fell victim to the brainswashing. It's easier to be brainwashed when you are willing because of a need to believe. I can't lie to myself any longer. I experienced some very strange stuff, but I have no explanation for it. Life is a fucking trip.
 
biteme said:
LOL. Even when I was out of my mind for Jesus, I don't think I criticized anyone harshly for not believing. I just kept saying, "watch and you will see." Even I fell victim to the brainswashing. It's easier to be brainwashed when you are willing because of a need to believe. I can't lie to myself any longer. I experienced some very strange stuff, but I have no explanation for it. Life is a fucking trip.
Follow your heart and be what you know you should be...
 
JavaGuru said:
Follow your heart and be what you know you should be...

I have a glimmer of Hope. Either we're gonna die and it's all she wrote, or somehow life will carry on in a much better existence where there is no more pain and suffering. I do not believe in Hell after death. We're living in it.
 
biteme said:
I have a glimmer of Hope. Either we're gonna die and it's all she wrote, or somehow life will carry on in a much better existence where there is no more pain and suffering. I do not believe in Hell after death. We're living in it.
It's your journey...follow your heart!
 
I hope you all get hit by lightning.
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UA_Iron said:
I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.
-- Albert Einstein, obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955, quoted from James A. Haught, "Breaking the Last Taboo" (1996)

A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
-- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930

It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
-- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930

Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being.
-- Albert Einstein, 1936, responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray. Source: Albert Einstein: The Human Side, Edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffmann


I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science. [He was speaking of Quantum Mechanics and the breaking down of determinism.] My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the highest importance -- but for us, not for God.
-- Albert Einstein, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
-- Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press


crickets chirping....
 
UA_Iron said:
You are in fact the hypocrite, PolfaJelfa. And you have still failed to prove anything.
No shit.
 
Im done with you twirps.. Im done posting in this forum.. I show proof..I SAID READ THE FUCKING BOOK..there is your proof.

I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG>
Now bye bye...im done posting in C&C
 
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