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i don't know where you guys are coming up with toxicity of tren. nobody i know that gets bw done and stays on tren/test as hrt, hehe, i know, has had bw problems and some of them are up in age. quote from wikipedia

"No trenbolone compounds have been approved by the FDA for human use,[1] due to a lack of clinical applications and some potential negative side-effects.[2] It is classified as a Schedule III drug under the Controlled Substances Act. However, bodybuilders have been known to use the drug illicitly in order to increase body mass more effectively than by weight training alone. A normal bodybuilding dosage can range from 200 mg/week up to 1400 mg/week. Due to the relatively short metabolic half-life of trenbolone acetate, dosages should commonly be split into injections at least once every two days. Trenbolone enanthate can be injected once a week.

Trenbolone acetate is often referred to as "Fina" by illicit users, because injectible trenbolone acetate is often prepared from Finaplix H pellets, an ear-implant used by cattle ranchers to maintain the weight of cattle during shipping to slaughter.

Trenbolone compounds have a binding affinity for the androgen receptor three times as high as that of testosterone.[citation needed] Once metabolised, the drugs have the effect of increasing nitrogen uptake by muscles, leading to an increase in the rate of protein synthesis. It also has the secondary effects of stimulating appetite, reducing the amount of fat being deposited in the body, and decreasing the rate of catabolism. Trenbolone has proven popular with anabolic steroid users as it is not metabolised by aromatase or 5α-reductase into estrogenic compounds such as estradiol, or into DHT. This means that it also does not cause any water retention normally associated with highly androgenic steroidal compounds like testosterone or methandrostenolone. It is also loved by many for the dramatic strength increases commonly experienced with it.

Short-term side effects include insomnia, high blood pressure, increased aggression, night sweats, and libido. However, since women will suffer virilization effects even at small doses, this drug should not be taken by a female. Urban wisdom/myth in bodybuilding culture, states that the use of the drug over extended periods of time can lead to kidney damage. The kidney toxicity has not yet been proven, and scientific evidence supporting the idea is suspiciously absent from the bodybuilding community that perpetuates this idea. The origin of this myth most likely has to do with the rust colored oxidized metabolites of trenbolone which are excreted in urine and often mistaken for blood. After Schänzer (Clin Chem 1996; 42(7): 1001-1020, Metabolism of anabolic androgenic steroids) trenbolone and 17epi-trenbolone are both excreted (in urine) as conjugates that can be hydrolyzed with beta-glucuronidase. This implies that trenbolone leaves the body as beta-glucuronides or sulfates, which means mostly non metabolized."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trenbolone


oh ya and about the sex drive. i was running test prop/npp
switched it up to
test prop/tren a/mast prop

i can't keep my wood down. it's getting outta hand. im glad my kids are young.
 
hey Ross

since you have said that you trained lotta bodybuilder's i have something to ask. some people says tren gains will diminish significantly even with great diet and pct. some say it with deca.

how did your bodybuilders guy do ?? i mean keeping gains with tren?? were they able to keep gains close to testo??

also what about the ones who used both??

thanks
 
needtogetaas said:
You are getting out of line bro. Ross has not attacked you. So give him the same respect.

i havent attacked him yet either, he said i didnt know who he was, i told him i knew who he was, pretty simple to me

bro why would i respect someone that has been banned from MANY boards so many times?
 
xrsist said:
a nobody that thinks hes somebody because hes trained a few guys..
why would i respect someone that has been banned from MANY boards so many times?
get over your self.
+1.
Ross is going to generate controversy where ever he's allowed to post.
The EF powers I'm sure new that, and for some reason welcomed that.
Let's enjoy it while it lasts.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
+1.
Ross is going to generate controversy where ever he's allowed to post.
The EF powers I'm sure new that, and for some reason welcomed that.
Let's enjoy it while it lasts.


LOL, this is a good debate :) im on tren first time bro, at a point i was up to 130mg test prop ED and 100mg tren a ED with no sides except getting insanely fucking strong and vascular on restricted cals and carbs. i see alotta people whine about tren which kept me away from it so long. i really believe some people cannot tolerate it. i mean, some people have really adverse effects to it. maybe some don't wanna admit that they might think it makes them look weak so they look to other reasons to say they don't use it. hell i donno. i won't go near EQ, cause i know the fear that the anxiety would set in would set in my anxiety and i'd have a fucking serious 2 month panic attack. anadrol also, 15 pounds in 4 days i put on, headache city, insane aggression, insane strength, had to stop though. now, that's some toxic shit right there.
 
http://www.usp.org/pdf/EN/referenceStandards/msds/1673828.pdf

even the official 'last word' on it is full of inconsistancies - due to them lumping all the sides of all AAS together.

I'd like to be the rat that got 5000mg per KG a day in their tests, though.. little fella must have been JACKED.

Those with no personal experince of something yet consider themselves experts on it is what makes the internet so informative and entertaining.
 
chazk said:
HUMMM another online steroid GURU...

Do I LOOK like an ONLINE STEROID GURU TO YOU? This aint Anthony Roberts SON..

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