the brain stimulant piracetam rules!!!

[Hugh Gellatts]

In the past I've used power-drive ritalin or dexedrine with ECA to boost my focus when lifting. The last week though I've been using piracetam (also known by the brand name nootropil). This stuff really gets you in the "zone" without feeling overly jumpy. I've been having awesome workouts and in general feel less sluggish (I feel lethargic on cycle sometimes).

you can get this stuff legally from overseas online pharmacies (same ones you use to get proscar and nizoral).

Only downside is that it is 1:30 am and I am still wide awake.

 

[vexed]

Thanks for the info bro I was thinking of trying it myself as of late... Can you describe a bit more its effects? I mean I dont feel smarter on eca... I feel wired. Is that the feeling it provides or do you feel like it actually increases your cognative ability?

 

[NYStrip]

Yes, tell us more. I've been wondering about that stuff myself.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

yes, I just wrote out the solution to our oil crisis and proved Thermat's theorum (twice).

Actually the effects are sorta subtle... Yesterday I was watching the movie Traffic, and realized at the end that I had not been reading the subtitles during the spanish speaking segments. Granted I do have some schooling in Spanish, but it is not enough that I would automatically find myself understanding what the people are saying without consciously translating.

comprende?

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

piracetam is a GABA derivative....don't know if that effect the action of 1.4 butandiol. There really aren't many contraindications for its use, and it has been out for 30 years. The half-life is very short (gotta dose every 4 hours) so I suspect most of it would be out of your system by the time you use the bute.

 

[asner]

Do you still use any ECA or other stims while taking it? Or is it strong enough on it's own?

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

BTW here is the way I plotted my dose. That level is plenty

http://www.altonweb.com/cs/downsyndrome/index.htm?page=piracedo.html

checking out now, later.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

I still use the ECA, but at a lower dose.

they operate through completely different pathways. I just read that choline helps boost the effect too. I'll try adding that tomorrow.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

at higher doses it will negate the effects of 1.4

piracetam indirectly raises the level of dopamine in the brain.

at higher doses it tends to make you paranoid

it does help with post "G" depression.

peace

 

[lawnsaver]

I thought periactin was an app stimulant?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

lawnsaver,
different drug

 

[lawnsaver]

Sorry!

Does this one work like an ECA?

 

[TxLonghorn]

Sorry!

Does this one work like an ECA?

No, it's not really a 'wired' feeling at all. More like a ramping up of energy, and it also makes it a little easier to focus. Think of ritalin with add. It allows you to do things you normally would probably avoid doing.

I took pramiracetam and hydergine, and I could definitely tell a difference, but they are so expensive for what you get. I would rather save my money and buy some more fina. And the dreams on hydergine were VIVID. I am talking real-life. And this is from a guy that remembers a dream every 3 years or so. On hydergine I would normally wake up and remember 2-3 dreams.

Like I said, neat stuff, but until money is no object, I have other priorities.

 

[GaryWary]

It's a tired old (the first nootropic) pharmaceutical with an expired patent (hence it's cheap) and tons of not always conclusive studies over it's 30 year history...

http://www.nootropics.com/review.htm

http://shoga.wwa.com/~goodking/linkpira.htm

http://www.ceri.com/noot.htm