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The BEST Simple Steroid Stack

Silent Method

Silent Method

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In your opinion, what is the most simple and effective steroid stack and why. Base your reply on personal experience - not just what you've heard others say.

Please limit your self to two drugs, three max.

I'm going to say testosterone and d-bol. First of all, I've experienced great results with this combo. Other users' reports on either of these drugs alone or together are almost universally positive. One being a Class I and the other a Class II steroid, I believe they leave each other room to add synergy to the overall cycle effect.


Opinions?
 
keeping it simple, assuming Test and Dbol, what doses and length for a first cycle, then subsequent cycle?
 
based on my first use of tren these last few weeks I would have to say test prop/ tren. I love the combo and the fact that there is no waiting around when done with the cycle and they can be 4 week cycles. that is simple and CHEAP
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
Testosterone + Tren and if I had to add another then D-Bol ;)

M18
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You'd blow up on that stack and get strong as FUCK... WHAT UP MUSTANG, how've you been bro? Drop me a PM if you check this thread...

YUM
 
For years, the classic simple mass cycle has looked like this.

Sust/Deca/Dbol.

I believe that this is still a great simple mass cycle, but I always swap out the Deca for EQ. Very similar gains with less sides.

Give it a shot, you wont be dissapointed. Test/EQ/Dbol.
 
TEST AND MORE TEST!

Seriously, this is a silly question. Anything will work if the dosages are high enough. Most people use no real science in regard to mixing drugs. One of the only reason is to manipulate the andrognic/anabolic ratio, but if you're using 2 androgens, it's like using 2 of the same thing. So when one guys claims that enanthate and d-bol is best and another guy swears sus and cyp are great -- it's all the same thing.

Now, if money and availability were no object, I'd go for the MEGA ANABOLIC COMBO: 1000mgs of Primo a week along with 50 mgs of Var every day. Can you imagine?
 
For reason that Nelson Montana said I think best simple stack is Test (prefereably Sustanon) and Deca. Also with Deca your joints are free of pain and you can train with more weights and that means more mass
 
Well I have pretty much always kept it simple with all my cycles, always having test as a base, and never having used dbol, the best cycle to date has been enanthate and deca. I have bulked with enanthate/deca and got better results than enanthate/EQ at the same dosages/same diet/same workout routine.
 
Nelson Montana said:
1000mgs of Primo a week along with 50 mgs of Var every day.
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Nelson I completelty agree with you, you must be doing something wrong...lol

Seriously if I could have just 1 drug all availability and price issues aside it would be Primo...I would run it at very high dosages (gram plus). My second choice is var here and third would have to be gh.

Most don't realize that Primo is some strong and amazing shit if run at higher dosages...most can't get or afford it at the smae dosages they run test so they think it is weak...well it ain't just for women and kids anymore
 
I guess I'll chime back in here. Yep, no reason to stack two drugs that do the same thing.

For the very reasons brought up by Nelson, I reaffirm my first choice - test and d-bol.
 
Testosterone Cypionate or Testosterone Enanthate Kick-start with d-bol (3-4 weeks). You will always get offered the front seat. :D
 
sk* said:
Fina/dbol. I'd add test in there too but I just don't like it.

-sk
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I feel the same about fina. I tried it once and had a bad experience. Well, actually I've only tried an underground "tren," so who knows for sure what I was really shooting.




Got to get me some bromo and a few carts next time...
 
TheRide said:


Nelson, why Primo??? I'm Curious?

:confused: :confused: :confused:
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A lot of guys think nothing of doing 1000mgs of test which is harsher, more bloating and more supressive, but you hardly hear of anyone doing that much Primo which would yield more solid gains and be safer.
 
"Because it's 4x the price"

- Not to mention CLEVERLY AND ABUNDANTLY FAKED ALL THE TIME!
 
Test cyp/Deca
Dbol begining and Var ending ( hmmm that was 4...)

OK, no cheating, 2 bests:

Test/Dbol/Deca
Test/Deca/EQ
 
Silent Method said:

Add to that the fact that, for many, primo is harder on the hairline than test...
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IMO, that's very likely an internet myth that began when someone decided that because Primo (or Winny for that matter) is a DHT derivative then it somehow is a DHT precursor. This logic does not hold. Remember, Var is a test derivative... and so is estrogen (I believe...).

Dbol made my hair fall out in sheets. Winny and Primo had no effect on my hairline whatsoever. Again IMO, AS's that are hard on the harline either (a) convert to DHT via 5-AR or (b) are hard on the hairline in proportion to how androgenic they are.
 
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It's true that both Methenolone and Stanozolol can't convert into DHT. But ran at higher dosage, could they have an effect on the hairline? I'd like to see a study that proofs that hairline won't be hurted at all when running primo or winny (great drugs by the way).
 
Koivu_11 said:
It's true that both Methenolone and Stanozolol can't convert into DHT. But ran at higher dosage, could they have an effect on the hairline? I'd like to see a study that proofs that hairline won't be hurted at all when running primo or winny (great drugs by the way).
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Not saying that either drug WON'T effect the hairline... All AS's will... I'm just saying that I think Primo is pretty benign in this respect, especially relative to Testosterone.
 
JibbyJabba said:


IMO, that's very likely an internet myth that began when someone decided that because Primo (or Winny for that matter) is a DHT derivative then it somehow is a DHT precursor. This logic does not hold. Remember, Var is a test derivative... and so is estrogen (I believe...).

Dbol made my hair fall out in sheets. Winny and Primo had no effect on my hairline whatsoever. Again IMO, AS's that are hard on the harline either (a) convert to DHT via 5-AR or (b) are hard on the hairline in proportion to how androgenic they are.
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I completely agree. I wish this old wives tale about winstrol and primo being harsh on the hairline would just die already. My favorite is when people say "Winstrol is made from DHT!" --like there's some factory sucking the DHT out of bald men's heads and converting into Winstrol-V. :)

Personally I think if something androgenic it's going to effect the hairline in proportion to how androgenic it is.

I haven't read a single thing about 5-aR reducing *anything* into an even more androgenic metabolite except for plain old testosterone. If anyone has any medicals studies that prove the latter statement wrong I'd LOVE to read them! :)
 
DTOX said:


I completely agree. I wish this old wives tale about winstrol and primo being harsh on the hairline would just die already. My favorite is when people say "Winstrol is made from DHT!" --like there's some factory sucking the DHT out of bald men's heads and converting into Winstrol-V. :)

Personally I think if something androgenic it's going to effect the hairline in proportion to how androgenic it is.

I haven't read a single thing about 5-aR reducing *anything* into an even more androgenic metabolite except for plain old testosterone. If anyone has any medicals studies that prove the latter statement wrong I'd LOVE to read them! :)
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Killer post bro... I thought I was going to be flamed to shit for this.
 
Nelson Montana said:
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A lot of guys think nothing of doing 1000mgs of test which is harsher, more bloating and more supressive, but you hardly hear of anyone doing that much Primo which would yield more solid gains and be safer.
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Thanks for the reply!!!
 
Nelson Montana said:
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A lot of guys think nothing of doing 1000mgs of test which is harsher, more bloating and more supressive, but you hardly hear of anyone doing that much Primo which would yield more solid gains and be safer.
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you never hear of anyone doing that much primo because its way expensive.

But my vote is for enanthate/tren and dbol if you want 3
 
JibbyJabba said:
IMO, that's very likely an internet myth that began when someone decided that because Primo (or Winny for that matter) is a DHT derivative then it somehow is a DHT precursor. This logic does not hold. Remember, Var is a test derivative... and so is estrogen (I believe...).
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I'm not sure I'd call it a myth.

I do agree that many people erroniously make the assumption that becaue a given drug is a "DHT derivative" it must be a hair killer.

It's wrong to let rumor form the bases of our opinions. However, I base my opinion of primo on the actual users I have talked to.

JibbyJabba said:
Again IMO, AS's that are hard on the harline either (a) convert to DHT via 5-AR or (b) are hard on the hairline in proportion to how androgenic they are. Dbol made my hair fall out in sheets. Winny and Primo had no effect on my hairline whatsoever.
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This illuminates a good point. D-bol hit your hair pretty hard. For me, d-bol seemed to have very little effect on my hair.

This is why I said that "for many," primo is hard on the hairline.

Also, consider deca. Although less androgenic then test, for some deca seems to equal hair death.
 
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