The #1 culprit for the Civil War?

[hamstershaver]

what was the #1 killer in the civil war?

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Cholera

 

[Delinquent]

Exactly. Slaves were fighting because in many cases they were promised their freedom, not because slavery was a non-issue.

I'm telling ya that's incorrect. Lemme get in touch with my friend about that book. My grandfather who has studied the Civil War for 40 years has also said that slavery was not the driving factor. I'll have to talk to him and get a better explanation as it's been quite a while since I studied the War. He has books dating back from the 1890's in which I have one in possesion but it's only a pictoral illustration that was made in 1896

 

[milo hobgoblin]

LOL Y-Lifter the voice of the oppressed..

"whitey just coudlnt survive if it wasnt for all these people doing this work"

Thats such a crock of shit.. if anythign slavery held back the economic growth of the South, because they becamse so reliant on EXTREMELY expensive slaves vs. cheaper mechanization.

And that bullshit about migrant workers.. what the fuck do you know? You dont even live in California.. Those fucking migrants cost us 10 BILLION dollars last year in unpaid medical care, school and property taxes, increased crime, welfare fraud.

If Lincoln was so go damn brilliant he would have bought up the slaves, freed them.. slave trading was already illegal in Europe in the influx of new slaves into the US was already at a minimum and could have EASILY been controlled through blockades.

The south would have adapted to the loss of slavery and blacks would havbe been accepted much easier in the SOuth.. but by forcing them through war,... and economically devastating the South all the North did was create a HUGE hatred of not only blacks but also the North.

And in many of Lincolns documents (that havnt been mutated by revisionists.. he says many times he did not think blacks and whites could live or be governed together)

oh and if you think Lincoln was so "anti slavery" why did he allow four of the loyalist states to retain slaves during the first part of the war???

Lincon was vindicitve and wanted to EXPAND federal powers.. the Sotuh wanted to retain its independence and the spirit of the constitution.. he made them pay for that attituide.

Slavery wasnt even an issue until he needed to garner support from Northern liberals to continue financing the war.. which the North was losing in the beginiing.. and badly.

You all think the Northand Blacks won the civil war.. The American People lost the civil war.. our government made huge expanses in its power and centralization and many of the powers that can be used to take away YOUR civil rights can have their roots traced back to post civil war government policies.


I dont what kind of revisionist bullshit some of you are reading.. but stop being so naive'

 

[Delinquent]

LOL Y-Lifter the voice of the oppressed..

"whitey just coudlnt survive if it wasnt for all these people doing this work"

Thats such a crock of shit.. if anythign slavery held back the economic growth of the South, because they becamse so reliant on EXTREMELY expensive slaves vs. cheaper mechanization.

And that bullshit about migrant workers.. what the fuck do you know? You dont even live in California.. Those fucking migrants cost us 10 BILLION dollars last year in unpaid medical care, school and property taxes, increased crime, welfare fraud.

If Lincoln was so go damn brilliant he would have bought up the slaves, freed them.. slave trading was already illegal in Europe in the influx of new slaves into the US was already at a minimum and could have EASILY been controlled through blockades.

The south would have adapted to the loss of slavery and blacks would havbe been accepted much easier in the SOuth.. but by forcing them through war,... and economically devastating the South all the North did was create a HUGE hatred of not only blacks but also the North.

And in many of Lincolns documents (that havnt been mutated by revisionists.. he says many times he did not think blacks and whites could live or be governed together)

oh and if you think Lincoln was so "anti slavery" why did he allow four of the loyalist states to retain slaves during the first part of the war???

Lincon was vindicitve and wanted to EXPAND federal powers.. the Sotuh wanted to retain its independence and the spirit of the constitution.. he made them pay for that attituide.

Slavery wasnt even an issue until he needed to garner support from Northern liberals to continue financing the war.. which the North was losing in the beginiing.. and badly.

You all think the Northand Blacks won the civil war.. The American People lost the civil war.. our government made huge expanses in its power and centralization and many of the powers that can be used to take away YOUR civil rights can have their roots traced back to post civil war government policies.


I dont what kind of revisionist bullshit some of you are reading.. but stop being so naive'

Right on man. Good explanation

 

[gotmilk]

what was the #1 killer in the civil war?

Brigade Commanders....

 

[AAP]

No, there were many accounts and tales of Lincoln fathering a child out of wedlock born to one of his black slav... err... servants.

People say the same thing about Washington.

 

[Delinquent]

No, there were many accounts and tales of Lincoln fathering a child out of wedlock born to one of his black slav... err... servants.

People say the same thing about Washington.

Jefferson was a big adulterer with his slaves. There are many documented accounts of his children who were born by slave women

 

[Testosterone boy]

No, there were many accounts and tales of Lincoln fathering a child out of wedlock born to one of his black slav... err... servants.

People say the same thing about Washington.

Yea....that was Jefferson, our best president.

Why we talk about thier sex lives is a mystery to me.

Do we carry on about the sex lives of past presidents of toysrus?


Jefferson founded the democratic party so he may well have been a ladies man. He was certainly no war mongerer.

 

[Y_lifter]

LOL Y-Lifter the voice of the oppressed..
"whitey just coudlnt survive if it wasnt for all these people doing this work"

Thats such a crock of shit.. if anything slavery held back the economic growth of the South, because they becamse so reliant on EXTREMELY expensive slaves vs. cheaper mechanization.

I am 1/4 Native American..

And if Slavery was so Extremely expensive, why was it used so extensively for Agricultural labor at the time in the south? Maybe because Farming Mechanization (GIN) caused larger and larger farms to be built and spread across the south, thereby employing more slave labor for those tasks that machines could not do. And even now, there are still some Ag areas where human labor is still a must and still used vs machines, even here in Florida.. As to migrants costing 10 BILLION,
I would say that is an issue, but IMO this is due to Illegal, undocumented, uncontrolled and unregulated workers.
Build a machine that will harvest a melon or an orange or delicate greens etc and you will solve this issue I think. Or pay them $10 an hour + benefits and see how much your produce costs go up..

And that bullshit about migrant workers.. what the fuck do you know? You dont even live in California.. Those fucking migrants cost us 10 BILLION dollars last year in unpaid medical care, school and property taxes, increased crime, welfare fraud.

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