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Tetratricycline while On Cycle
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biggeek
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djufo said:
I think you have your acne meds confused man.. tetracycline is just an oral antibiotic.. and it's nowhere near as strong as most normal antibiotics that people take when they get sick.. and it is by no means toxic to the liver.. you can stay on it forever.. except the body becomes used to it.. and it does not "stain" your skin in the sun.. but it can cause you to burn a lot easier.. so you have to tan slower and be more careful.. i take minocycline and still tan.. and for people that have REAL acne problems.. B5 doesn't do a thing and tanning will only make them appear less visible.. some people have to take the more serious route.. but i've taken acne antibiotics while on cycle and saw no problem and don't see why there should be one..
countless posts on various boards, have stated that you body will become resistant to antibiotics after a peroid of time, i just read recently on a-r about someone's story about antibiotics, and it wasn't good.....if your acne isn't bad than antibiotics for short peroids of time, and changing the substance....if your acne is bad, then accutane is the answer...with ins. it cost 3 for a month supply as prescribed, w/o ins. it can be found for 2 a 20mg pill
biggeek
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I want "medical" proof that these certain antibiotics are SOOO bad.. ha ha.. not just what some person on a message board said.. people react differently.. and tetracycline's.. i.e. doxycycline.. minocycline.. etc.. are some of the weakest antibiotics out there.. if antibiotics are catabolic.. than tetracyclines will have the least affect.. and to the guy that said.. just take accutane.. yeah.. that's definatly not smart while on cycle.. mess up everything while on cycle.. joints.. liver especially.. but yes accutane works.. but that should be a last resort.. and I challenge ANYONE to find me a valid medical report that states that minocycline will inhibit gains on cycle.. LOL.. i took it the whole way through my 10week test prop/6 week tren cycle.. 100mg/day and night.. still gained about 23 lbs.. have kept around 18 or so.. got a virus half way through that I got from my girlfriend and it hurt me a little bit.. but still.. antibiotics.. atleast not these are going to inhibit your gains.. and if they do.. EVEN by just a little bit.. for the people with SERIOUS acne problems.. it can save you a lot of trouble later.. you get bad acne.. you get scarring.. scarring is permanent.. you'll be looking great at 250lbs shredded with acne scars all over from your cycles.. ha ha..
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Bump Id like to see some proof also, not just "hearsay"
biggeek
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BionicBC said:
Ha ha ha.. bionic.. anyway.. no.. there was a bad cold virus going around where I lived.. I got a mild case of it.. then it went away.. then she got it really bad and a few days later it came back and hit me 10x harder than the first time.. we've been together almost 2 years.. no diseases like that.. LoL.. but good to know your looking out for me..
BionicBC said:
Herpes Simplex 2
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biggeek
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The Terminator said:Herpes Simplex 2
I hate it when you post Term.. i always have the urge to bang the girl in your avatar and your sig.. LoL... no but seriously.. there is a LARGE % of people out there that have simplex 1 and never know about it.. and can pass it on without having any symptoms.. but it's nothing major.. just like fever blisters and crap.. no i don't have it.. but also simplex 1 cannot be spread to the genitals.. that's simplex 2.. that cannot be transferred.. so no worry about getting favors from someone with simplex 1.. if you know what i mean.. lol
DJ_UFO
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biggeek said:
You are wrong bro.
SIDE EFFECTS
Capsules
Gastrointestinal: Anorexia, epigastric distress, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, bulky loose stools, stomatitis, sore throat, glossitis, black hairy tongue, dysphagia, hoarseness, enterocolitis, and inflammatory lesions (with monilial overgrowth) in the anogenital region, including proctitus and pruritus ani. These reactions have been caused by both the oral and parenteral administration of tetracyclines.
Skin: Maculopapular and erythematous rashes. Exfoliative dermatitis has been reported but is uncommon. Photosensitivity is discussed above.
Photosensitivity manifested by an exaggerated sunburn reaction has been observed in some individuals taking tetracyclines. Patients apt to be exposed to direct sunlight or ultraviolet light should be advised that this reaction can occur with tetracycline drugs, and treatment should be discontinued at the first evidence of skin erythema. NOTE: Photsensitization reactions have occurred most frequently with democycline, less with chlortetracycline, and very rarely with oxytetracycline and tetracycline.
The anti-anabolic action of the tetracyclines may cause an increase in BUN. While this is not a problem in those with normal renal function, in patients with significantly impaired function, higher serum levels of tetracycline may lead to azotemia, hyperphosphatemia, and acidosis.
Renal toxicity: Rise in BUN has been reported and is apparently dose related. (See WARNINGS.)
Hepatic cholestasis has been reported rarely, and is usually associated with high dosage levels of tetracycline.
Hypersensitivity reactions: urticaria, angioneurotic edema, anaphylaxis, anaphylactoid purpura, pericarditis and exacerbation of systemic lupus erythematosus, and serum sickness-like reactions, as fever, rash, and arthralgia.
Bulging fontanels have been reported in young infants following full therapeutic dosage. This sign disappeared rapidly when the drug was discontinued.
Blood: anemia, hemolytic anemia, thrombocytopenia, thrombocytopenic purpura, neutropenia and eosinophilia have been reported.
Dizziness and heachache have been reported.
When given over prolonged periods, tetracyclines have been reported to produce brown-black microscopic discoloration of thyroid glands. No abnormalities of thyroid function studies are known to occur.
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/tetcycl_ad.htm
The shit is strong. One proof, my wife was using it like 2 years ago for acne treatment. She was advised by doc to not get tan but we went to the beach anyways. She got some nasty brown stains in her arms...those stains lasted like for 1 year...is disgusting.
Also for hawaii50, there are different type of acne, and not all of them are treated the same way. Acne can be caused by infection, but also can be caused by hormonal problems. The doc has to evaluate wich one is the cause and attack the source.
biggeek
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djufo said:
You are semi mistaken on one statment.. almost all acne is the same per se.. what causes it can be different.. there are different strains of acne.. but most medications treat all strains.. the best acne medication "accutane" doesn't even treat acne.. just prevents oil.. which for most people.. equals less acne.. but the causes are always different..
Tetracycline's can be strong to some people.. different medicines react differently to different people.. and i'm very aware of the medical info you posted.. i have the real deal from my doc.. because i am still currently taking dynacin (minocycline tablets).. the photosensitivity is based on the person and their skin also.. i can get in the tanning bed.. not for long though.. while still on 200mg a day of minocycline... or doxycycline as well.. and minocycline is one of the stronger of the tetracycline class..
A lot of the side effects.. the more common side effects listed are common with most any drug.. like the usual ones.. and in large dosages.. most medications pose a problem to the liver.. but the substance itself is no akalayted and will not damage the liver like oral roids will or other substances.. but it is not "toxic" to the body.. it would not be prescribed to kids to easily if it was so damaging.. but all medications have their side effects and you have to weigh out what is more important..
To me.. a test/tren cycle breaks me out like i'm 16 again.. and i was left with scarring that is slowly starting to fade with the help of "finascea" (a roscea topical medicine with azaleic acid.. helps lighten the face and prevent acne).. but still.. if taking the antibiotics hurt my gains.. than it helped keep me from breaking out too much.. it was worth it.. i want to see real world studies where antibiotics are SO catabolic and damaging.. ha ha.. i just don't see it happening.. and yes people become used to antibiotics.. that's known.. that's why more and more doctors are prescribing less antibiotics because people are becomming immune and we are developing new strains of infections that our antibiotics can't treat.. but good discussion guys.. this is something that needs to be cleared up.. to many rumors floating around out there about this topic..
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AMGETR said:
same here man, I just take the niacin though. liver tests have come back fine along with cholesterol.
biggeek
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djufo said:bro you can go to that link and you can see the medical studies. I'd trust the conclusion of a group of doctors instead the opinion of one doctor...
But where are the studies that prove that tetracyclines are catabolic and hinder muscle gains?? Those are NOT on that page.. and I agree.. i trust a group of doctors over one doctor any day... doctors have been known to be wrong.. but i am also going off of personal use and knowledge.. and if tetracyclines are catabolic.. i would imagine using them while on cycle.. the roids would just overpower the catabolic affect of the antibiotics.. just my opinion on that one.. like i said.. kept 18lbs off a 10week test... was on minocin the whole time..
hawaii50
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sooo is this a yes or no?! haha. As far as this goes, Tetra works really well for me. I got it a couple years ago to get rid of Backne (bacne?), and it works REALLY well. A couple friends of mine also are on it, but it doesn't do anything for them, just makes them sick.
Now, I can deal w/ acne. I'll just wash my face 5 times a day if i have to. BUT, is it really catabolic? Cuz if it is, theres No way I'll use it. That would defeat the purpose of my cycle.
Some really good info guys. Thanks
Now, I can deal w/ acne. I'll just wash my face 5 times a day if i have to. BUT, is it really catabolic? Cuz if it is, theres No way I'll use it. That would defeat the purpose of my cycle.
Some really good info guys. Thanks
help4john
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Tetracycline and anabolic steroids do not go well together. Tetracycline is a broad spectrum antibiotic that has many purposes. It works primarily by inhibiting protein synthesis. Since Tetracycline does exhibit this anti-anabolic effect, it is working in the opposite direction of the anabolic steroids. Anabolic steroids increase protein synthesis and can encourage bacteria growth which often aggravates acne. Tetracycline may inhibit the functions of the anabolic steroids, or the anabolic steroids may inhibit the effects of the Tetracycline. Rather than try to examine which drug would come out on top, it seems the easiest solution is to not use Tetracycline while taking anabolic steroids.
Easy Google search. Give it a try....or keep taking Tetracycline. Hawaii....best off not to use Tetracycline.
Easy Google search. Give it a try....or keep taking Tetracycline. Hawaii....best off not to use Tetracycline.
hawaii50
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ok, guess i'll just deal w/ the acne. NO accutane for me either! my bro was on that and it stole his hair!!!
does the acne that you get on cycle go away? cuz i've read some posts where people say that it stays.
the reason i ask is i've never really gotten it on cycle, but i'm always afraid it will show its ugly face.
hawaii
does the acne that you get on cycle go away? cuz i've read some posts where people say that it stays.
the reason i ask is i've never really gotten it on cycle, but i'm always afraid it will show its ugly face.
hawaii
help4john
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Unfortunately the answer to that question is really based on the individual. My acne usually decipates after PCT. Once the esters clear, my body stops secreting the oily skin that is a precursor to acne. This is not true of all.....as you mentioned some users continue to notice acne long after gear has been discontinued. Preventative actions such as tanning, frequent showers, and rubbing alcohol can help subdue to effects.
Good luck!
Good luck!
help4john said:
broad-spectrum antibiotic, thats the word...yes you're right about it doing more than what its prescribed for...but i was talking about a post on a-r about someone stating that they had to go to the hospital becuase not only does antibiotics kill bad bacteria, it also kills the good, and the person that made the post had to go to the hospital becuase of...i'll just find the post....
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=136975
